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re: Thinking about voting for Bernie
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:14 pm to Cankles
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:14 pm to Cankles
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I meant what we're doing as a society to help those in need is not working.
capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic policy in the history of mankind
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We dismiss the idea that our parents raised us in a setting where education was valued and they taught us how to survive in school and work. Well what if our parents didn't know how to do that? Where would we be?
if you think the answer is more government you were never a conservative
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 4:14 pm
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:15 pm to Cankles
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From the guy who can't put together a coherent argument
I can't help it if you can't read or are too lazy to do so
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without resulting to insults, taunting, and emojis.
stop deserving them
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I am genuinely curious about an issue that I know I don't fully understand and am trying to learn more. If you don't have anything helpful to contribute, why even respond?
Hey Shirley, try reading.
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Are you 16?
You coming on to me, you disgusting pederast? I do not want your damn pizza!
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:16 pm to Cankles
quote:Describes Bernie
rich and elite
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:16 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
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I would encourage everyone to distance themselves from any allegiance to political parties. Vote for the best candidate.
OK, so let's get into some real talk about how could we possibly break out of this 2 party establishment when 99% of people are going to align to a "side"?
What has to happen for this to gain momentum? Is the media to blame?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:17 pm to Cankles
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Talk some sense into me....
Joke?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:18 pm to Cankles
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What has to happen for this to gain momentum?
For starters smarter people starting better threads
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:18 pm to Cankles
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Thinking about voting for Bernie - I have always been conservative minded, but
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:20 pm to FishinTygah84
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It's inevitable that the rich will always pay less than their share.
Is see you fell for that bullshite.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:21 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
The issue is that conservatives don't want to change the status quo. They are okay with it so long as they see benefit from it.
This typically translates into politics specifically designed to benefit corporations above all else.
Companies will lobby for their interest. So that means the government is controlled by a private group of people, not the actual population at large.
That's why people want to support Bernie. Not saying it's a perfect choice but the only alternative for a Democrat are corporate establishment Dems like Biden. So as far as they are concerned you might as well vote Republican.
Seriously, its better to just vote GOP instead of corporate Democrat. At least GOP you know what you're getting.
This typically translates into politics specifically designed to benefit corporations above all else.
Companies will lobby for their interest. So that means the government is controlled by a private group of people, not the actual population at large.
That's why people want to support Bernie. Not saying it's a perfect choice but the only alternative for a Democrat are corporate establishment Dems like Biden. So as far as they are concerned you might as well vote Republican.
Seriously, its better to just vote GOP instead of corporate Democrat. At least GOP you know what you're getting.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:23 pm to Midget Death Squad
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For starters smarter people starting better threads
Is this breaking out of the 2 party system an idea you really like or are you just trying to insult some more?
You said I don't deserve to be on your side, but you didn't say what side that was. You talked generally about Capitalism, and I thought you made some good points. Is that the side you meant? I don't deserve to be on the Capitalism side?
I guess you're expecting me to be some kind of expert, and you're angry that I'm not. I know I don't understand a lot about this which is why I asked the question.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:23 pm to Cankles
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I meant what we're doing as a society to help those in need is not working
You mean giving them free shite?
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We dismiss the idea that our parents raised us in a setting where education was valued and they taught us how to survive in school and work. Well what if our parents didn't know how to do that? Where would we be?
Might not be as well off as some of us are had our parents not instilled in us a quality work ethic and valuing education. If I were poor/in need, I think I might look at some successful people and try to emulate what they have been doing, which would mean valuing education and working hard
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:24 pm to Cankles
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meant what we're doing as a society to help those in need is not working.
Because the government is involved.
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think the idea that they should just get off their asses and pull themselves up by their bootstraps like we did is where we go wrong
No it isn’t. The mindset of “woe is me” is wrong.
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We dismiss the idea that our parents raised us in a setting where education was valued and they taught us how to survive in school and work. Well what if our parents didn't know how to do that? Where would we be?
So explain the millions of success stories who beat generational poverty and broken homes by staying in school, not having children, and getting a job?
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:27 pm to Cankles
Cankles? If you’re really cankles then yes, you should vote Bernie because you screwed the man out of the Dim nomination in 2016.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:28 pm to Cankles
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LINK
You serious Clark?
The individuals that make up Amazon or any other corp DO pay taxes.
You know that words have established meanings right?
If 10 people go to dinner and agree to split the bill and the bill is $500., every persons fair share is $50.
If one of those people stands up and says..."I'll pay for 7!" and one of those people stand up and says.."You greedy arse...why don't you pay your fair share?" That person is an idiot.
The top 10% of earners pay about 70% of the taxes.
Same thing.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:30 pm to Cankles
so you think electing someone who has generated a net worth of a several million dollars while literally being a career politician will do anything to fix the status quo?
If you want to vote for a career politician to change the status quo, they better have a history of authoring bills (whether or not they pass) that will try to change that status quo.
Define fair? Who is to say they are not paying their fair share? Also, Bernie has admitted that all of his tax changes will also affect the middle class. How much do you wan tot bet it will disproportionally affect the middle class even more, form a percentage standpoint.
If you want to vote for a career politician to change the status quo, they better have a history of authoring bills (whether or not they pass) that will try to change that status quo.
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Billionaires and businesses not paying a fair share of taxes.
Define fair? Who is to say they are not paying their fair share? Also, Bernie has admitted that all of his tax changes will also affect the middle class. How much do you wan tot bet it will disproportionally affect the middle class even more, form a percentage standpoint.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:32 pm to Cankles
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Cankles
Is this AOC??
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:32 pm to Cankles
Cankles, Have you ever considered self self-immolation?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:33 pm to Cankles
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From Wikipedia:
"The group is known for producing deceptively edited videos about media organizations and left-leaning groups."
What was that about critical thinking?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:34 pm to Cankles
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We elected Donald Trump to as President thinking that he would shake up the status quo, when in reality, he is a member of the same rich and elite who are perpetuating this cycle of oppression for everyone except for the super rich.
Oppression? Could you give examples? Because personally I am doing fine, I'm not rich but the economy is rocking and I am not being oppressed in any way
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:34 pm to Cankles
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Talk some sense into me....
There is no helping you.
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