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Posted on 5/16/20 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 1:48 pm to
Spot on everyone above me on page 9!

Making focaccia today. I know it will be topped with rosemary and maybe olives. The wife wants tomatoes, but that means a trip to the grocery.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:19 pm to
This cast iron pizza recipe is fantastic and based on a focaccia crust. I highly recommend it!

LINK
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:40 pm to
Trout Bandit

Oh well, dough is in the oven proofing. Didn't see your post. I have a pretty good recipe. I'll show photos later.

Edited to add:



That's pretty much my recipe.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 2:44 pm
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50184 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:07 pm to
Just mixed up a big recipe of the King Arthur rustic white. Y’all gonna make me fat...er.
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
18363 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

This cast iron pizza recipe is fantastic and based on a focaccia crust. I highly recommend it!


I had great results with that King Arthur pan pizza recipe








Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48951 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:29 am to
Going visit the grandparents today so decided to make them some nice sourdoughs

Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 8:41 am to
Ha, pac man smiles. I’ve made stovetop pita in a cast iron skillet, English muffins, and focaccia lately. I think I’m gonna make some brioche today.
Posted by tewino
Member since Aug 2009
2305 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 11:51 am to
Nice spring. Are you using 100% wheat flour or a blend? I usually use 10% whole wheat and 5% rye plus other flours. Tastes great but those other flours don’t spring like all wheat
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 3:51 pm to
I'm needing some help. I'm trying to ease my way into bread making. I've been trying to make "overnight white bread with 10% whole wheat".. re: Ken Forkish, Four Water Salt Yeast pg.89.
I'm new at this so I did half of the recipe. 400g. white flour, 100g. whole wheat flour, 390 g water, 1/8 tsp. dried yeast.
After folding I let the dough rise overnight. What I get is a dough that is bubbling with gas and won't hold a shape. After reading a bit more what I have is BIGA , I think... What am I doing wrong??
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48951 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:06 pm to
24% AP flour and 76% bread flour
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 5:06 pm
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 6:20 pm to
Page 89 of my edition of FWSY is the Overnight White Bread recipe. P 189 is a photo. A biga is just a starter, aka a preferment. Go find a recipe that calls for a biga and use your biga in that recipe.

Page 109 has a 50% whole wheat bread w biga recipe. You could also use it in the White bread with Poolish recipe on p 98.

Or, mix your biga with 500 g white flour, 250 g water, and 1/2 tsp instant yeast. Use your hand or a spoon. Get all the flour wet and biga mixed in. Let it rest for 30 mins then add 20 g salt. Squish the salt in using a pincer motion. Let it rest 39 mins, then do a stretch and fold 4x. Repeat the 30 min rest/stretch and fold 3 more times (over 2-3 hrs). Then shape into a rough round, put round into a bowl lined with a well floured non terry kitchen towel. Let it rest 1-2 hrs. Invert loaf onto parchment, place in a Dutch oven in a preheated 450 degree oven. Bake 30 mins, remove lid and bake 20 mins more. Cool completely before slicing.
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 5:05 am to
Page 89 of my edition of FWSY is the Overnight White Bread recipe[/quote]

This is what I'm trying to make. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

quote:

Go find a recipe that calls for a biga and use your biga in that recipe.

Now that I know what I made (not intentionally) I'll do this. But I'm still curious as to what I'm doing wrong with the original recipe for Overnight White Bread.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 7:15 am to
quote:

I'm new at this so I did half of the recipe. 400g. white flour, 100g. whole wheat flour, 390 g water, 1/8 tsp. dried yeast. After folding I let the dough rise overnight. What I get is a dough that is bubbling with gas and won't hold a shape. After reading a bit more what I have is BIGA , I think... What am I doing wrong??

Did you skip the salt? It does more than just flavor the dough.
But this is a wet dough: 78% hydration. It is not going to be firm or hold its shape on its own. Hence the need to let it rise in a banneton or bowl or basket. It’s a high hydration dough that yields a holes, open crumb and distinctive crust. The wet dough generates lots of steam inside the closed baking vessel, which gives maximum oven spring.
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 7:21 am
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 7:30 am to
Salt was added, 2 tsp. This dough after folding and rising had the consistency of a thick pancake batter. I did bake it and it had no rise at all.
This was my second attempt and I even reduced the hydration to 70%. He calls for instant yeast and I'm using dried, would that be the cause?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 7:46 am to
No, the yeast swap wouldn’t matter.
Are you weighing everything? If not, it is easy to overshoot on the water and undershoot on the flour using volume measurement. If you are weighing, a simple error like forgetting to zero the scale after adding an ingredient can throw it all out of whack.

At this point, your mix is too old to be of any use. Toss and start again.
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 7:59 am to
I weighed everything. I'll keep at. Thanks
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:55 am to
I think I found the problem. I decided to check the accuracy of my scale and it's way off!
You have any recommendations for a good scale?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76549 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:11 am to
quote:

I think I found the problem. I decided to check the accuracy of my scale and it's way off!
You have any recommendations for a good scale?


I have this one: Amazon Link

I got it because the display screen extends out making it easy to read when I have the big cambro tub on there so it's perfect for Forkish's suggestions of equipment.

Also, I would make the recipes exactly as is when just starting out. Its not that much more flour to make two loaves instead of one. Things can easily get messed up in the conversions. Just my thought.

Keep at it. Making your own bread is very rewarding literally and figuratively.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Just mixed up a big recipe of the King Arthur rustic white. Y’all gonna make me fat...er.


Their homemade bun recipe is rising now... I cooked these for the first time last week. Pretty amazon. Mixing the dough in the bread machine and then I will be putting it in bun pans in about 30 mins.
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
12721 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:06 pm to
I made the Amish dinner rolls from long Arthur a couple days ago. They were incredible. Looking forward to trying more of their recipes. Added everything bagel to a few and it was a nice addition. LINK




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