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re: Time for Louisiana to do away with TOPS
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:20 am to DVinBR
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:20 am to DVinBR
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tops helped pay for my time at LSU, now I work in Louisiana as an engineer making good money and paying taxes while debt free
It’s a great program for people like you.
Unfortunately it also pays for kids to go to school who end up leaving for Texas immediately and contribute nothing back to the state. The program needs to come with some work requirements in the state after graduation, or you start paying it back.
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:21 am to StupidBinder
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By that logic, the GI Bill is welfare.
If the shoe fits.
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Good luck telling a vet that his benefits were a handout.
Idc if they like it or not. An apple is an apple. Welfare is welfare.
ALL of it needs to go. Corporate welfare. Tax breaks. Handouts. Entitlements. Tops. Etc etc etc.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:22 am to Epic Cajun
quote:I know they would never abolish it but I would be happy with raising the minimum and a requirement of 4-6 years employment in the state before moving elsewhere.
At a minimum, the requirements for it should be higher than they are. It makes no sense that they are as low as they are.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:22 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:. . . to the state of Texas.
TOPS is literally the best service the state has to offer
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:24 am to Bedhog
quote:Yep, raise it to a 24 ACT or something like that for minimum, and you have to work in-state for 5 years after graduation, or you have to pay it back.
I know they would never abolish it but I would be happy with raising the minimum and a requirement of 4-6 years employment in the state before moving elsewhere.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:24 am to Bedhog
TOPS = TEXAS Opportunity Program for Students
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:25 am to Bedhog
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Time for Louisiana to do away with TOPS
TOPS is just a different way of funneling money to the state schools.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:25 am to beerJeep
quote:What we pay former state employees and former politicians in retirement and health coverage in this state is absurd. The full pension retirement timeframe is also absurd. I know a fella who is 40 and retired from the state after working at angola as a guard. He is retired full pension and now has another job while receiving his retirement from the state.
Idc if they like it or not. An apple is an apple. Welfare is welfare.
ALL of it needs to go. Corporate welfare. Tax breaks. Handouts. Entitlements. Tops. Etc etc etc.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:26 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:25 am to Bedhog
A few things need to happen for TOPS to be sustainable:
1. Minimum requirements need to be raised
2. Needs to be a loan program that is forgiven under a couple of conditions:
a. Must maintain minimum hours, gpa and graduation track throughout college
b. Must remain a resident of Louisiana for 5 years after graduation
1. Minimum requirements need to be raised
2. Needs to be a loan program that is forgiven under a couple of conditions:
a. Must maintain minimum hours, gpa and graduation track throughout college
b. Must remain a resident of Louisiana for 5 years after graduation
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:26 am to Bedhog
So people who raised good kids and are "wealthy" shouldn't be treated equal to the poor people?
I'm all for equality.
If some students get it based on ACT score, then all who score at that level should.
I busted my arse to earn a "good" living. Myself or kids shouldn't be penalized.
I'm all for equality.
If some students get it based on ACT score, then all who score at that level should.
I busted my arse to earn a "good" living. Myself or kids shouldn't be penalized.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:26 am to Bedhog
The point of state funded public higher education is to educate the public. It is in the states interest to have educated citizens. This is why every state has public universities. The previous administration cut the crap out of the higher education budget and then gave some of it back in the form of TOPS. This money only goes to kids that meet the minimum requirements. The reason for TOPS is to try to keep some kids in state for college. If you can keep some of them here there is a chance they might stay for work, provided that there actually are jobs for them. If they leave for college there is a much lower chance they will come back. Do some leave, yes. But some of them do stay. It is a numbers game. You aren't going to get them all.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:27 am to Privateer 2007
quote:I think nobody should get it. I want it abolished. What part didn't you get?
So people who raised good kids and are "wealthy" shouldn't be treated equal to the poor people?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:28 am to Bedhog
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bitch about section 8 and food stamps
TOPS is merit based.
Anyone who achieves criteria should get it.
Welfare and section 8 are rewards for not being self sufficient.
Comparison is bullshite.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:30 am to Bedhog
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And most of the graduates are going elsewhere
Most? Over 50%?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:30 am to Bedhog
I agree. College should be more expensive
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:30 am to Privateer 2007
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TOPS is merit based.
As it stands now, no it isnt.
Write your name on your act sheet, half arse guess, congrats. You met the min requirement to get tops.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:31 am to TDsngumbo
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Pay for your own shite, college students! I did!
How old are you?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:33 am to TDsngumbo
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Pay for your own shite, college students! I did!
Where did you go to school? Was it LSU?
Are you aware that LSU is publicly funded and has always been that way? TOPS is just a replacement for the funding it used to get directly.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:33 am to Bedhog
People denying the fact that TOPS is welfare is very funny
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:34 am to Epic Cajun
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Yep, raise it to a 24 ACT or something like that for minimum, and you have to work in-state for 5 years after graduation, or you have to pay it back.
Raise it to a 24? Where is it now?
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