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Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:24 am to Bedhog
TOPS = TEXAS Opportunity Program for Students
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:25 am to Bedhog
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Time for Louisiana to do away with TOPS
TOPS is just a different way of funneling money to the state schools.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:25 am to Bedhog
A few things need to happen for TOPS to be sustainable:
1. Minimum requirements need to be raised
2. Needs to be a loan program that is forgiven under a couple of conditions:
a. Must maintain minimum hours, gpa and graduation track throughout college
b. Must remain a resident of Louisiana for 5 years after graduation
1. Minimum requirements need to be raised
2. Needs to be a loan program that is forgiven under a couple of conditions:
a. Must maintain minimum hours, gpa and graduation track throughout college
b. Must remain a resident of Louisiana for 5 years after graduation
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:26 am to Bedhog
So people who raised good kids and are "wealthy" shouldn't be treated equal to the poor people?
I'm all for equality.
If some students get it based on ACT score, then all who score at that level should.
I busted my arse to earn a "good" living. Myself or kids shouldn't be penalized.
I'm all for equality.
If some students get it based on ACT score, then all who score at that level should.
I busted my arse to earn a "good" living. Myself or kids shouldn't be penalized.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:26 am to Bedhog
The point of state funded public higher education is to educate the public. It is in the states interest to have educated citizens. This is why every state has public universities. The previous administration cut the crap out of the higher education budget and then gave some of it back in the form of TOPS. This money only goes to kids that meet the minimum requirements. The reason for TOPS is to try to keep some kids in state for college. If you can keep some of them here there is a chance they might stay for work, provided that there actually are jobs for them. If they leave for college there is a much lower chance they will come back. Do some leave, yes. But some of them do stay. It is a numbers game. You aren't going to get them all.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:28 am to Bedhog
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bitch about section 8 and food stamps
TOPS is merit based.
Anyone who achieves criteria should get it.
Welfare and section 8 are rewards for not being self sufficient.
Comparison is bullshite.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:30 am to Bedhog
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And most of the graduates are going elsewhere
Most? Over 50%?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:30 am to Bedhog
I agree. College should be more expensive
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:33 am to Bedhog
People denying the fact that TOPS is welfare is very funny
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:34 am to Bedhog
All it does is educate Texas’ workforce
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:42 am to Bedhog
Is there proof that the majority of TOPS graduates leave Louisiana?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:43 am to Bedhog
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why are Louisiana taxpayers still funding this welfare program
TOPS was 1% of the state budget. I'd say that's worth it considering the number of students benefiting from it.
How about a new policy requiring payback on a percentage of the loan if you drop out.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:45 am to Bedhog
It just needs to be reformed. If you dont graduate, you owe it back. If you leave the state within 2 years of graduating, you owe it back. If you lose it due to grades, you owe it back
For someone like me tops was great. It minimized my debt through school and got me an engineering degree and into the louisiana workforce. I would have had to go military without it.
For someone like me tops was great. It minimized my debt through school and got me an engineering degree and into the louisiana workforce. I would have had to go military without it.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:48 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:50 am to Bedhog
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I know plenty of families with kids who received TOPS money and they are very well off and will also bitch about food stamps and section 8 money.
so you are mad that taxpayers get some of their tax money back?
why?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:54 am to Bedhog
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know plenty of families with kids who received TOPS money and they are very well off and will also bitch about food stamps and section 8 money.
Well there. It’s settled.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:05 am to Bedhog
quote:The two are not comparable. A person receiving TOPS yields a resource to better the state. The others are just providing life essentials.
I know plenty of families with kids who received TOPS money and they are very well off and will also bitch about food stamps and section 8 money.
Now, how we utilize the fruits of TOPS or if it is effective is debatable, but this is a stupid point.
IF Louisiana would spend time creating economies to employ and utilize the recipients of TOPS we would see a great improvement in the State. We dont, we just pray the price of oil goes back up.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:07 am to Bedhog
I would gladly ditch TOPS for a compromise.
- Mandatory drug testing of all SNAP benefits.
- Grown single men or women not eligible for SNAP/EBT
- No use of EBT at fast food restaurants
That's for starters: Deal?
- Mandatory drug testing of all SNAP benefits.
- Grown single men or women not eligible for SNAP/EBT
- No use of EBT at fast food restaurants
That's for starters: Deal?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:23 am to Bedhog
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I know plenty of families with kids who received TOPS money and they are very well off and will also bitch about food stamps and section 8 money.
Yep, I know of a family that moved here from Texas three years ago. Transferred here for a job. They are waiting on their kid to graduate high school and get TOPS then they are transferring/moving back to Texas. One and a half years left till he graduates.
They will have lived here for five years and got two kids through college for free. Their kids will no doubt be moving to Texas when they finish college.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:30 am to Bedhog
Southerners aversion to education and a more educated population really is comical
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