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Dems opening up the anti-2nd A playbook in Va.

Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:37 pm
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:37 pm
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The prospective law would require indoor gun ranges to be housed in buildings owned by the state of Virginia or the federal government. The only exceptions are for indoor ranges with less than 50 employees, and indoor ranges where police or federal law enforcement officers make up 90 percent of the users.

And even if indoor ranges do meet the second requirement, the bill has even more restrictions in store
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These ranges must keep “a log of each user’s name, phone number, address, and the law-enforcement agency where such user is employed, and … the indoor shooting range verifies each user’s identity and address by requiring all users to present a government-issued photo-identification card.”
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 5:39 pm
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:38 pm to
Their goal is to effectively make it impossible to purchase, carry, or use a firearm amidst a gigantic maze of regulation and rules. They know they can never overturn the 2nd amendment so they are just going to do everything under the sun to undermine it.
Posted by BarnacleScraper
Member since Jan 2020
12 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:39 pm to
God damn dude. I'm getting closer and closer everyday to becoming a single issue voter.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41645 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:42 pm to
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and the law-enforcement agency where such user is employed,

They want gun range employees to keep tabs on cops? I'm sure that will go over well with local pd.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
26921 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:43 pm to
Virginia is a disaster
Posted by bayouh2o
Arizona
Member since Sep 2006
926 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:45 pm to
So you would need an ID to use a shooting range, but not to vote.

Idiotic
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
18786 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:46 pm to
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requiring all users to present a government-issued photo-identification card.”


But you can vote on this issue without one. Classic.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
15947 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:46 pm to
I predicted in a thread a couple of weeks ago that they’d require people to register whenever they used a gun range, including documenting the type of weapon used.

The State will send in people the same way they send underage kids in to attempt to buy alcohol at convenience stores now. Business owners will follow the law when the only alternative is losing their business.

People are counting on law enforcement to protect their rights in VA? LEOs will be a exempt from these gun range rules so they won’t care about what happens to Joe Citizen or private business owners.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103149 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:00 pm to
Dems are going to end up causing a shooting war here and LEOs are going to take a pass because they knew better than to get involved.

Under current SCOTUS rulings, they are under no obligation to actually respond to a call, including ones with imminent danger.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80171 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:08 pm to
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LEOs will be a exempt from these gun range rules



thanks to mass deputization,

we are all LEOs now.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2341 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:09 pm to
Shall not be infringed.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103149 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:10 pm to
The counties will claim these are all deputies / militia members.

The state will try to claim that only salaried employees are eligible for this distinction.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154713 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:12 pm to
Except they can’t until they change the constitution of Virginia. They have lots of work to do

I will help my home state resist by any means necessary.

That’s fine, right progstains?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80171 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:13 pm to
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The state will try to claim that only salaried employees are eligible for this distinction.


the state has their schedule,

and the local governments have their own.

make the cost of enforcement sky high and the state will quit
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103149 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:14 pm to
This implies the state cares about cost.

They want to impose a permanent change on the populace and don’t care how many of their own they lose in the process.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:16 pm to
I envision Republican-flight from VA

Left wing activist shoots Republican Congressman in VA, Left removes guns in VA
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154713 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:17 pm to
The cost of enforcement will be extravagant.


Other state militias are exploring helping. This is ground zero. If you know any conservatives in Virginia, demand that they vote straight party line. Not voting and not voting party line has led us here.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 10:00 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80171 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:17 pm to
enforcers coming back to NOVA in body bags is a high price that code pink won't pay

they already made that clear
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112678 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:18 pm to
To think that Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe (i.e. the first 4 Presidents) are from that state.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154713 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:19 pm to
They need to go to Richmond first for max effect.
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