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re: If we are truly an elite program, losing a coach isn't a big deal
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:43 am to Penrod
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:43 am to Penrod
Brady getting all the hype like he walks on water. Was an assistant to an assistant with the Saints. And now passing game coordinator who coaches the WRs and assists Steve E.
Is he calling all the plays? Did he completely rewrite the entire offense? Is he completely responsible for the development of Burrow and all the WRs?
Great addition with fantastic results but not necessarily qualifications for an NFL OC job. But when you are a NFL team that hires a couple year "wonder" from Baylor (who did not win even win the Conference Title or the Bowl game) as your NFL head coach, anything is possible.
Is he calling all the plays? Did he completely rewrite the entire offense? Is he completely responsible for the development of Burrow and all the WRs?
Great addition with fantastic results but not necessarily qualifications for an NFL OC job. But when you are a NFL team that hires a couple year "wonder" from Baylor (who did not win even win the Conference Title or the Bowl game) as your NFL head coach, anything is possible.
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:44 am to 13SaintTiger
No, we did horizontal passing. Screens. That’s it
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:44 am to PUB
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Did he completely rewrite the entire offense? Is he completely responsible for the development of Burrow and all the WRs?
That would be a resounding yes.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:02 am to PUB
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Brady getting all the hype like he walks on water. Was an assistant to an assistant with the Saints. And now passing game coordinator who coaches the WRs and assists Steve E.
Is he calling all the plays?
Yes
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:03 am to tigersquad89
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tigersquad89
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If we are truly an elite program, losing a coach isn't a big deal
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He’s responsible for the greatest offensive turnaround in college football history.
I would give credit to Coach "O" for the hiring of Brady first and also credit to Coach "E" for sharing the role and of course Brady who for bringing in the expertise to turn the offense around. With this said the tools were in place, great WR's, a mature QB in place and a very good OL that allowed Burrow the time to make all this happen.
There are plenty of good offenses and OC's out there with similar schemes that just don't have the players LSU has and if we lose Brady we can stay at this level as long as our next QB develops. There is no sure thing we would stay at this level losing Burrow and losing Burrow may hurt LSU than Brady leaving.
My point is this amazing season is way more than Brady and can continue with or without Brady. It is my thoughts the offensive turn around does have a lot to do with Brady however the championship level is more to do with Burrow.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
Let’s see how he does without Joe Burrow under center. Joe is obviously benefitting from the system, but he’s also a once in a lifetime talent.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:30 am to Penrod
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bullshite! Orgeron and Ensminger are.
No one is solely responsible. 2 guys get the bulk of the credit for this year and those two aren’t necessarily them, though they both bear the bulk of the credit for setting up the two guys who are responsible. O and E got Burrow by convincing him they were serious about modernizing the offense. E convinced O that Bradycould be a great help in progressing the passing game
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1 our receivers got a year older and radically better.
The better part was in large part to the skill drills brought by Brady.
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2 our oline got a year older and radically better.
Absolutely true and credit to coach Cregg and Moffitt, the guys the rant wanted fired last season
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3 Burrow settled in over the course of 2018 and became the best QB in the nation.
4 Brady came, bringing the Saints playbook and philosophy.
Brady has the bulk of the responsibility for 1, as I stated, and probably that along with the changes in the offense helped Burrow to settle in. Don’t try to minimize what Brady brought to the table here.
But regardless of all of that, I think any great offensive team like this is will be the result of a confluence things coming together at the right time. I think your primary point is correct in that LSU’s offense is not going backwards if Brady leaves because O and E are dedicated to keeping this system. The offense may not be a historic record breaking offense next year but I expect it to be a great offense. With or without Brady. But I hope we can keep him.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 4:52 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
Good post
I think Orgerons willingness to run this offense and the success that we’ve seen from it would lead one to believe Orgeron will go down the same road when the time comes
That’s the take home message from all the rumor mill stuff
I think Orgerons willingness to run this offense and the success that we’ve seen from it would lead one to believe Orgeron will go down the same road when the time comes
That’s the take home message from all the rumor mill stuff
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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it isn't
the thing about our offense that truly fricks up defenses is our ability to keep our talent on the field without subbing, allowing a hurry up style offense
that ain't new or groundbreaking for CFB. just for LSU
THIS! LSU has had the talent to do this for 15+ years (just look at the # of guys we put in the pros) but we finally started utilizing the new offensive concepts.
Now we will take a step back bc we aren’t just going to replace Burrow and not miss a beat.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:33 am to tigersquad89
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He’s responsible for the greatest offensive turnaround in college football history....
Brady certainly played a roll in it. And his roll was bringing in a package of plays that perfectly firs Burrow's skill set.
However, the more highlights reels I watch of Burrow, the more convinced I am that he is the biggest reason for the turn around. Yes, there are times that we have wide open receivers and the scheme deserves most of the credit, but Burrow threw an incredible amount of TDs into the tightest of windows. You can't teach that.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:37 am to Lester Earl
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ogram, losing a coach isn't a big deal by Lester Earl
You don’t go from completing 57% of your passes as a Jr, to completing 77%, CFB’s all time highest single season total, because the “WRs & OL improved ”
What kind of clown shite is that?
The same kind of clown shite that argued all last season that the scheme was fine and wanted to challenge anyone who disagreed that it went beyond execution.
Those kind of posters clearly were wrong. Sounds like you agree
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:45 am to LSUShock
Every accolade the guy gets is duly deserved. But the truth is, he’s likely the most easily replaceable coach on the staff. He can pass (a pun coming here) the offensive playbook off to an equally capable replacement with a damn jump-drive and a 45 minute chat at Starbucks.
What we don’t want is him getting in the hands of our opponents. That’s where his loss could prove meter moving. Kinda like the Germans or Japanese capturing a strategic military person in WWII who could both reveal the playbook and how to best defend it.
I’d much rather him go to the pros vs another college team.
What we don’t want is him getting in the hands of our opponents. That’s where his loss could prove meter moving. Kinda like the Germans or Japanese capturing a strategic military person in WWII who could both reveal the playbook and how to best defend it.
I’d much rather him go to the pros vs another college team.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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I hope the interviews and what not have no effect on Monday (because that can happen, see: FSU's title game when Richt was going to UGA).
Richt had accepted the job and was already splitting his time. That’s not happening with Brady. Brady is locked into finishing this thing.
Neither Herman nor Morris was the straw that stirred the drink. Morris never participated in the CFP so what's your point?
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 10:28 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
Solid post. Second only to recruiting, replacing assistants is probably the main challenge top programs have. Saban has done it really well and they have people leaving all the time. Going back to even the best of the Miles years, it was a mixed bag with the O and the D having ups and downs tied to assistants thriving ... or not (see Mallveto). One thing that should be easier now than it was when Orgeron was hired is that we know more specifically what we want to do with the offensive scheme. Orgeron wanted to modernize from the beginning but went the wrong direction with Canada and had to start over.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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If we are truly an elite program
It takes more than one year to become a truly elite program. The last 6 years haven’t been elite.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:20 am to rthomas628k
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But the truth is, he’s likely the most easily replaceable coach on the staff.
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What we don’t want is him getting in the hands of our opponents. That’s where his loss could prove meter moving.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:25 am to Rosenblatt
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The same kind of clown shite that argued all last season that the scheme was fine and wanted to challenge anyone who disagreed that it went beyond execution.
Those kind of posters clearly were wrong. Sounds like you agree
I have no clue what you are trying to say
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:26 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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The last 6 years haven’t been elite.
The last two have
But we know how many fans missed out on the upward trend from 17 to 18.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:33 am to Lester Earl
Last year was very good, but I'm not sure how one can consider it "elite." What trend are we talking about? The talent? The coaching is completely different. What did you see in the coaching last year that led you to believe that this year would be possible?
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