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If we are truly an elite program, losing a coach isn't a big deal
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:40 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:40 am
Yeah I hope we keep Brady and he's groomed into an individually elite OC, but he's just one guy. Look how many OCs Bama has been through during their run. did Clemson fall off the map when Chad Morris left? What about Ohio State when Herman left?
Now, obviously, I hope the interviews and what not have no effect on Monday (because that can happen, see: FSU's title game when Richt was going to UGA). But long term, if O has built an elite program, he just has to hire another elite OC.
The most important thing about Joe Brady was O's willingness to finally adopt a modern offense. There isn't anything that incredible about Brady outside of how he was allowed to help E modernize the offense. There are other offensive guys out there who can do similar things (maybe even add more wrinkles).
Stop freaking out. If Brady goes to the NFL or another team, then O just has to get somebody else.
Now, obviously, I hope the interviews and what not have no effect on Monday (because that can happen, see: FSU's title game when Richt was going to UGA). But long term, if O has built an elite program, he just has to hire another elite OC.
The most important thing about Joe Brady was O's willingness to finally adopt a modern offense. There isn't anything that incredible about Brady outside of how he was allowed to help E modernize the offense. There are other offensive guys out there who can do similar things (maybe even add more wrinkles).
Stop freaking out. If Brady goes to the NFL or another team, then O just has to get somebody else.
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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There isn't anything that incredible about Brady outside of how he was allowed to help E modernize the offense.
He’s responsible for the greatest offensive turnaround in college football history....
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:42 am to SlowFlowPro
TL;DR
But if sacrificing him for 1 year means winning an NC then so be it
But if sacrificing him for 1 year means winning an NC then so be it
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:43 am to sunnydaze
God this board is so embarrassing sometimes.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:45 am to tigersquad89
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He’s responsible for the greatest offensive turnaround in college football history....
a stat for just how bad our offensive scheme/luck was last year
nothing we are doing this year is that groundbreaking. we could have been doing this under miles. it's just we've had coaches that refused to want to modernize the offense since about 2009
imagine if we had hired a spread guy after 2012 and the offensive turnaround we'd have seen in 2013
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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imagine if we had hired a spread guy after 2012 and the offensive turnaround we'd have seen in 2013
Well we had a very good offense in 2013 but your point isn’t wrong
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 7:49 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:51 am to Draconian Sanctions
that's what i'm saying, though. yeah it was great...with a terrible OC and a dinosaur scheme
there is no reason that OBJ should have had more years his rookie year in the NFL (without playing a full year) than his final year in college. think about what he'd have done with a real offense in 2013
there is no reason that OBJ should have had more years his rookie year in the NFL (without playing a full year) than his final year in college. think about what he'd have done with a real offense in 2013
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 7:51 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:52 am to SlowFlowPro
Perfectly reasonable
But will everyone realize that there won’t be another joe burrow
But will everyone realize that there won’t be another joe burrow
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:53 am to SlowFlowPro
I’m not convinced it would have been this good under a different coach. It still could have been a drastic improvement from what we had. But what they are doing now isn’t just great for LSU. This offense is one of the most elite college football has ever seen.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
You are correct.
The most important thing this year was the implementation of the offense and the commitment to it.
Play calling can be replaced. It’s the commitment that we lacked.
The most important thing this year was the implementation of the offense and the commitment to it.
Play calling can be replaced. It’s the commitment that we lacked.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:56 am to tigersquad89
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He’s responsible for the greatest offensive turnaround in college football history...
bullshite! Orgeron and Ensminger are. There are 4 main factors for why our offense made this jump.
1 our receivers got a year older and radically better.
2 our oline got a year older and radically better.
3 Burrow settled in over the course of 2018 and became the best QB in the nation.
4 Brady came, bringing the Saints playbook and philosophy.
LSU has often had talent but never anything like this on offense. We had it last year, but they were young. You could see this offense improving all of last year without Brady. That improvement would have continued this year even if he had not joined LSU. The philosophy change, that he was part of, brought it to another level, but this change was determined by Orgeron. Brady was part of that pre-determined effort. And had it not been for Brady, they would have brought in someone else.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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nothing we are doing this year is that groundbreaking. we could have been doing this under miles
Yeah all we needed was a record setting, Heisman winning QB.
A Bilitnicoff award winning WR and a Receiving Corps better than anyone has and OL which was deemed the best in the
Country.
Joe Brady worked with the receivers and developed all kinds of drills which improved their catching ability. Brady brought in the passing concept which nobody has yet stopped but you say it is nothing special.
You are nuts.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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nothing we are doing this year is that groundbreaking.
It took 3 tries to get it right this time. I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's as easy as you're saying.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:58 am to Penrod
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bullshite! Orgeron and Ensminger are. There are 4 main factors for why our offense made this jump.
1 our receivers got a year older and radically better.
2 our oline got a year older and radically better.
3 Burrow settled in over the course of 2018 and became the best QB in the nation.
4 Brady came, bringing the Saints playbook and philosophy.
Ensminger & Orgeron Your order is reversed
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:58 am to Lester Earl
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But will everyone realize that there won’t be another joe burrow
well THAT is something entirely different
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:59 am to Penrod
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He’s responsible for the greatest offensive turnaround in college football history...
bullshite! Orgeron and Ensminger are.
Then why isn't Ensminger the one being mentioned for an NFL coordinator position?
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:59 am to Penrod
Holy shite you are stupid.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:01 am to rob62
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Joe Brady worked with the receivers and developed all kinds of drills which improved their catching ability. Brady brought in the passing concept which nobody has yet stopped but you say it is nothing special.
it isn't
the thing about our offense that truly fricks up defenses is our ability to keep our talent on the field without subbing, allowing a hurry up style offense
that ain't new or groundbreaking for CFB. just for LSU
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:02 am to SlowFlowPro
Next year might be quite the step back without Burrow and Brady
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:04 am to TigerLunatik
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It took 3 tries to get it right this time. I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's as easy as you're saying.
the reason it took 3 tries is b/c O was not ready to deal with the issue and the tail was wagging the dog
the reason why Bama, Clemson, OSU, OU, etc. can keep on rolling after losing elite coaching is b/c their head coach has a system/scheme and knows exactly what he wants. O didn't buy in to a modern offense until he hired Brady. O was all over the place about his team's offensive identity
if this is what we're going to be (and i hope it is), then we can find a replacement for Brady, esp with SE around to help bridge things
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