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re: Let's be honest - Political rallies are for losers
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:16 am to stout
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:16 am to stout
quote:I gotcha, that makes a little more sense. But if they are truly in the middle on every issue, are they even sharing opinions?
I guess I should have clarified more. I mean the ones that always tow the middle no matter the issue. We all know someone like that and I can't value their opinion much as they usually can't think for themselves.
Personally, there are many issues that I am undecided on, and I'm not one who HAS to take a stance on everything. I find that people who do that tend to never waver for fear of seeming weak or wrong.
So it doesn't matter if you're arguing with someone on the other side, or circle-jerking with someone you agree with, nobody is changing their mind and nothing will be accomplished. It's more productive to talk to people who don't currently lean too far to either side.
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:18 am to Powerman
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That opinion may be subject to change if I'm presented with compelling information that my stance is flawed but I think that should be normal.
I think you and SFP are a lot alike in that people are not sure how to address either of you because you both can be articulate in your discussions. No one likes to be challenged too much but each of you like the challenge that some topics present.
boosiebadazz has tried to do the same but falls short and lets his biased show too much.
Now we have angiehank trying to do the same but he has already proven too many times he is a partisan hack for people to fall for it.
At least you aren't a pseudo-intellectual like that Ohio fan with the Sinatra avatar that thinks posting a
emoji is winning the argument when it's clear he has been outwitted yet again. 
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:19 am to stout
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I know a few people like this. You can literally get them to change their minds based on the discussion and who all is present at the time.
That's not someone who rides the fence; it's someone who is easily influenced.
You have people who simply don't care enough to take a position, as well as those who are easily influenced. But I don't see how Powerman fits either of those descriptions
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:22 am to Korkstand
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It's more productive to talk to people who don't currently lean too far to either side.
I like a good debate from time to time even if we disagree and neither one of us will change our mind in the end. I have a few liberal friends like this in Cali and we still appreciate and respect each other. The people in the middle I speak of seem to lack any conviction about anything. Hard for me to really respect that.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:22 am to Korkstand
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Personally, there are many issues that I am undecided on, and I'm not one who HAS to take a stance on everything. I find that people who do that tend to never waver for fear of seeming weak or wrong.
Agreed
Sometimes I think it's ok to just say "I'm not sure" about something. If you asked me some detailed questions about quantum entanglement and asked me to take a side it probably wouldn't be a very fruitful endeavor for me to really say much because I know frick all about the issue.
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So it doesn't matter if you're arguing with someone on the other side, or circle-jerking with someone you agree with, nobody is changing their mind and nothing will be accomplished. It's more productive to talk to people who don't currently lean too far to either side.
Correct. You can't learn much from someone who has too rigid of an opinion on an issue that is nuanced.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:25 am to Powerman
quote:I usually stay away from the poliboard. When I do come here it's usually just to stir up shite because the posters here are easily flustered.
I honestly have no fricking clue what your political positions are but I'd be generally curious to see what you have to say about political topics.
I actually lean right on a lot of issues, but I mostly share my left leaning ideas here because it's more fun. So of course I'm prog filth.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:25 am to Powerman
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If you go to a political rally you're a loser If you get enjoyment from watching them on TV you're a loser I understand why politicians have them. I just don't understand how someone could be so pathetic to waste their time with them This isn't just Trump. This is any politician ever.
That would be my reply too if I were butt hurt the dems were only pulling in a few dozen and Trump was pulling in a few thousand.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:26 am to Korkstand
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the posters here are easily flustered
Exhibit A - this thread
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but I mostly share my left leaning ideas here because it's more fun. So of course I'm prog filth.
Exactly
I share some of my right leaning thoughts here as well but it's certainly not as entertaining
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:26 am to Azkiger
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That would be my reply too if I were butt hurt the dems were only pulling in a few dozen and Trump was pulling in a few thousand.
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This isn't just Trump. This is any politician ever.
Maybe you missed something
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:28 am to Powerman
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This isn't just Trump. This is any politician ever.
quote:
Maybe you missed something
Oh, I guess I have to agree that Antifa is antifacist because they said they were.
Gotcha.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:29 am to Azkiger
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Oh, I guess I have to agree that Antifa is antifacist because they said they were.
Gotcha.
Antifa is a bunch of morons
What's your point?
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:31 am to stout
quote:Yeah that can be fun, I do it sometimes. That's how I know it's not productive.
I like a good debate from time to time even if we disagree and neither one of us will change our mind in the end. I have a few liberal friends like this in Cali and we still appreciate and respect each other.
quote:It takes all kinds I guess.
The people in the middle I speak of seem to lack any conviction about anything. Hard for me to really respect that.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:33 am to Powerman
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What's your point?
Antifa is incorrect when they call themselves antifacists.
You are incorrect when you say your "loser" title applies to everyone attending/viewing a political rally.
Trump broke you with his dozens and dozens of huge crowds.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:33 am to Korkstand
Not prog filth
Childish waster of everyone’s time
But if you want to think you are above the fray and smarter than everyone else go ahead
Childish waster of everyone’s time
But if you want to think you are above the fray and smarter than everyone else go ahead
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:35 am to Azkiger
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You are incorrect when you say your "loser" title applies to everyone attending/viewing a political rally.
Trump broke you with his dozens and dozens of huge crowds.
If you took the time to revisit the thread and I certainly don't expect you to I acknowledged that this cult like behavior started with Obama
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Trump broke you with his dozens and dozens of huge crowds.
No. He didn't break anything you imbecile. I don't personally have much of a problem with Trump at the moment. I can compartmentalize my view of how he is handling his job and also acknowledge that people attending rallies and watching them on TV are morons.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:37 am to gthog61
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Childish waster of everyone’s time
Won't really argue with you there but the whole idea of an internet forum is pretty much a time waster
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But if you want to think you are above the fray and smarter than everyone else go ahead
Oh I certainly don't. I'd wager I'm smarter than the majority here but certainly not above the rest.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:40 am to gthog61
quote:This entire board is a waste of time. Don't act like my tiny contribution is worse than the rest of it.
Childish waster of everyone’s time
quote:I would never say that I'm smarter than everyone else. But I will say that a lot of dumb shite gets posted here.
But if you want to think you are above the fray and smarter than everyone else go ahead
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:51 am to Powerman
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If you go to a political rally you're a loser
If you get enjoyment from watching them on TV you're a loser
I understand why politicians have them. I just don't understand how someone could be so pathetic to waste their time with them
This isn't just Trump. This is any politician ever.
IF - IF - IF this were anything close to normal times, I would agree with you.
I would never go to a political rally - even now - unless if was terribly convenient.
BUT - I am buoyed by the fact that so many good Americans DO sacrifice their time and conveneience to stand up AGAINST the political evil which is being rammed down out throats.
These rallies are a show of determination - like I have never seen before in my long life. I love that ordinary Americans are making a physical statement of "I am tired of this shite."
DEMS demonstrate their hatred by organized 'protests' - burning down neighborhoods - harassing innocent bystanders - feeding lies and hatred thru a compliant news media - making political attacks at obtuse awards ceremonies.
The normal people gather together peacefully - sometimes having to suffer thru harassment as complicit local government allows their rights to assemble be mocked and demeaned - to show their dedication to the ONE political movement that is truly in the spirit of what America is supposed to be. in OPPOSITION to the evil forces trying to destroy America as it has existed to be a beacon of freedom and liberty.
I rejoice that that spark of patriotism and support of honest government still exists in spite of the 4 decades of debilitating attacks we have suffered from the DEMOCRAT party in seditious conspiracy with the socialist movement centered in our university system and entertainment industry and news propaganda.
VIVA USA SUPPORT RALLIES !!!!
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:52 am to Powerman
I just don’t see why one should care so much and have such a strong opinion about such a trivial item.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:54 am to Powerman
I can't remember the last time I went to one. But I understand why people do.
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