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re: Let's be honest - Political rallies are for losers
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:43 pm to Pecker
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:43 pm to Pecker
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I can't help it, I like Powerman. I can appreciate his contrarian attempts at objectiveness. It keeps things interesting.
If nothing else, even on his worst days, at least he can think for himself.
Thanks. Not all of my ideas are my own but I don't mind taking a good arse kicking on the board every now and then. I've had my share of dud threads but this place definitely does need some balance.
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:43 pm to Pecker
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If nothing else, even on his worst days, at least he can think for himself.
Yes but often he lets his need to be a contrarian at seemingly all cost get in the way of his objectiveness.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:46 pm to Clames
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Powerman
3+ years of arse-pained loser.
Yeah, over the years Powerman has gotten a bad case of ghey hemorrhoids. He used to be more of a common sense guy.... that was 10+ years ago though.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:48 pm to stout
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Yes but often he lets his need to be a contrarian at seemingly all cost get in the way of his objectiveness.
Maybe. But it adds weight to his opinions in the instances when he does agree with the board consensus.
I think I just like debate. If your ideas are sound, you should welcome it.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:49 pm to stout
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Yes but often he lets his need to be a contrarian at seemingly all cost get in the way of his objectiveness.
Fair enough
Feel free to point out where you think I'm not objective though and we'll try to have a civil discussion about it. I know you're certainly no dumb arse.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:50 pm to Pecker
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If your ideas are sound, you should welcome it.
Correct. If you are immediately offended that someone disagrees with you it's probably a good sign that you aren't very confident in your stance and can't back it up with any substance.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:50 pm to Powerman
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Can you name some issues where I think that I'm not conservative? Or is it perhaps only in your imagination. I'm genuinely curious why you would think that I'm moderate left.
I am sure could if I cared enough to dig into it but lately I usually skip over much of your post/threads here because in the past I have written you off as moderate left and sort of towing the middle. I don't really care for people that tow the middle as they seem indecisive and not able to think for themselves.
You have posted on TD long enough for me to say I personally have no issues with you whether or not we see eye to eye politically.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:52 pm to stout
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I am sure could if I cared enough to dig into it but lately I usually skip over much of your post/threads here because in the past I have written you off as moderate left and sort of towing the middle.
Perhaps you're not doing that of your own volition and are basing that opinion on group think. Just a thought.
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I don't really care for people that tow the middle as they seem indecisive and not able to think for themselves.
I don't tow the middle. I'm decisively conservative by any objective measure.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:52 pm to Powerman
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Fair enough
Feel free to point out where you think I'm not objective though and we'll try to have a civil discussion about it. I know you're certainly no dumb arse.
If I am wrong I will admit it. I'm not on TD as much anymore so I skip over a lot. Apologies if my assumptions were off.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:53 pm to Powerman
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Perhaps you're not doing that of your own volition and are basing that opinion on group think. Just a thought.
I have never really been a follower. You should know that much about me by now as you aren't one either but I get your point.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:57 pm to stout
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I have never really been a follower. You should know that much about me by now as you aren't one either but I get your point.
Right. I don't suspect you are a follower but when you see hordes of people yelling at me calling me a prog you might suspect that there has been some fundamental shift in my thinking.
That isn't the case. There has been a fundamental shift in the participants on this forum. Many of the old school conservatives don't post here any more and I can't blame them. Any sort of dissent or criticism of Trump isn't welcomed here. I plan on voting for Trump in 2020 but I have no reservations about questioning the administration when I think something looks odd.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:00 am to Powerman
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Correct. If you are immediately offended that someone disagrees with you it's probably a good sign that you aren't very confident in your stance and can't back it up with any substance.
Or that one's identity is tied to his political positions. To question their politics is to question their reason for being
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:00 am to stout
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I don't really care for people that tow the middle as they seem indecisive and not able to think for themselves.
Political issues are political because there is no objectively correct answer. We all have our issues that we are firmly on one side of, but to be firmly on a side of every issue is a sign of someone not thinking for themselves.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:03 am to Korkstand
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Political issues are political because there is no objectively correct answer. We all have our issues that we are firmly on one side of, but to be firmly on a side of every issue is a sign of someone not thinking for themselves.
It's sad that this even needs to be said.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:05 am to Powerman
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I have no reservations about questioning the administration when I think something looks odd.
As it should be. It's scary if you think about where we are as far as treating political parties as if we were rooting for sports teams.
That being said, I admit I went to Trump's really when he was in Lake Charles and would do it again. I considered it an opportunity that doesn't come along often to see a President I support so I didn't want to pass on the chance. You can call me a loser and that's fine if that is your opinion but I say to each their own.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:07 am to Korkstand
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Political issues are political because there is no objectively correct answer. We all have our issues that we are firmly on one side of, but to be firmly on a side of every issue is a sign of someone not thinking for themselves.
I guess I should have clarified more. I mean the ones that always tow the middle no matter the issue. We all know someone like that and I can't value their opinion much as they usually can't think for themselves.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:09 am to stout
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ones that always tow the middle no matter the issue
This isn't a thing. What you're trying to describe is someone who agrees with you sometimes and other times does not.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:10 am to Korkstand
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Political issues are political because there is no objectively correct answer. We all have our issues that we are firmly on one side of, but to be firmly on a side of every issue is a sign of someone not thinking for themselves.
I honestly have no fricking clue what your political positions are but I'd be generally curious to see what you have to say about political topics.
On pretty much every other board you come off as highly intelligent and logical.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:11 am to Pecker
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This isn't a thing. What you're trying to describe is someone who agrees with you sometimes and other times does not.
Correct
There are plenty of issues where I might say I don't have much of an opinion but on the larger issues of political philosophy I have an opinion. That opinion may be subject to change if I'm presented with compelling information that my stance is flawed but I think that should be normal.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:12 am to Pecker
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This isn't a thing.
I disagree. I know a few people like this. You can literally get them to change their minds back and forward based on the discussion and who all is present at the time. Then the next week they will flop again.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 12:13 am
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