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Brady’s offense and copycats

Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:50 pm
Posted by paper tiger
acadiana
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:50 pm
Brady has established a very cool and creative offense at LSU. But it’s not a magic offense. I think a lot of the more talented offensive coordinators could watch LSU film now and copycat the same plays. It might not work as well without Burrow, CEH, the LSU receivers and O-line, but the play design is on film for all to see.

I really hope Brady stays at LSU, but if he doesn’t I don’t know that anyone could better copy Brady’s offense than Ensminger can. He sees it everyday. It’s not like Brady leaves and Ensminger removes his plays from our playbook. I don’t know about bringing in another young gun like Brady to help Ensminger as some suggest. The type of cooperation and chemistry Brady and Ensmingrer enjoyed isn’t something I think can easily be recreated.

I can see Brady leaving now. I don’t see how without Burrow next year, Brady’s star could ever shine brighter than it is now.

Worst case scenario if Brady does leave is Ensminger can run that offense now. No one can copy the offense better than Ensminger who sees it up front and personal every day.

That said, aside from the design of an offense, there is the intuition needed to call the plays in a sequence that works best and do game day adjustments when defenses throw a new wrinkle at you. You can’t copycat intuition.

Brady has said Ensminger calls most of the plays. Does he, or is Brandy just being nice and sharing the credit? Who knows?

I truly hope Brady stays and continues his partnership with Ensminger. But I think Ensminger is a smarter coach than people think. If Brady does leave, I think the offense under Ensminger looks a lot like we have now on paper. Whether it works as well will be more up to how well Myles Brennan plays than anyone else.

Posted by LSUGrad2005
Member since Aug 2018
680 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:59 pm to
Ensminger was a QB so I would assume that play design and understanding is right up his alley. Joe may have created or tweaked some plays but I am sure Ensminger can continue what he has learned. And then hopefully be able to teach someone else when/if Brady leaves.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16935 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:10 pm to
I think we take for granted the stuff Brady is working on with these guys at practice. All of the conversions on routes, the timing, the little nuances that come with the offense. I think that’s huge (Twss)
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
3141 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:12 pm to
Bro what.

We were maybe the 100th team in the country to adopt this style of offense.

We’re the copycats.

People are a lot more likely to copy the “catch a pass through a closed door” drill and the other catching drills. That’s one thing Brady brought over that not many people (not anyone in cfb?) is doing.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 3:14 pm
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22621 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:14 pm to
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It might not work as well without Drew Brees
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16592 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:15 pm to
Everyone will be running same route tree. No one will have a Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow takes this offense up 6 levels. It’s Burrow not Brady . Fact
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Everyone will be running same route tree. No one will have a Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow takes this offense up 6 levels. It’s Burrow not Brady . Fact


That is indeed not a fact. It's the textbook definition of an opinion. It's probably a little bit of both Brady and Burrow. Neither is probably as good without the other.



On a side note. Why do so many people on the board believe that Joe Brady is the inventor of this offense? He has even stated that he watched touchdown plays from all over and tries to see what can work for them. People may be stealing plays from LSU, but those plays they are stealing come from somewhere else.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Oddibe
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Member since Sep 2015
6568 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:20 pm to
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Brady’s offense and copycats
Burrow is the key to that offense. He has the work ethic of an NFL qb and puts a lot of time studying film. He has the ability to read defenses.

Other teams can run the same plays, but the QB is what makes it work to perfection.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9053 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:23 pm to
Brady should stay at LSU and become the OC, that would be the best decision for him. Any other move is extremely risky considering everything.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:00 pm to
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Burrow is the key to that offense. He has the work ethic of an NFL qb and puts a lot of time studying film. He has the ability to read defenses.

Other teams can run the same plays, but the QB is what makes it work to perfection.


Next year we will know ... when Joe is not around.
I have no doubt that this offense is exponentially better because of Joe.
Posted by The Belk
Member since Oct 2015
549 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:04 pm to
You mean copy Sean Payton's offense?
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:14 pm to
The thing about the new offense is it is not static. According to Brady, the new offense will be changed and tailored every year to match the personnel on that season's team.
Posted by lsuexpert57
Back Brusly
Member since Oct 2008
1605 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:19 pm to
I think yours is a good assesment of the situation as it exists and I agree 100%.
Posted by lsuexpert57
Back Brusly
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:19 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 4:20 pm
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17975 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:29 pm to
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It’s Burrow not Brady
What we've seen this year is Brady+Ensminger+Burrow == Perfect Storm, to use a cliche.

Seriously, you can't have this offense without Brady, nor the flawless execution pre- and post-snap without Burrow.

And Ensminger's experience and coordination is the canvas on which the two Joes have painted this masterpiece.
Posted by Southcoast
Texas
Member since Jan 2004
687 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:37 pm to
It's the intangibles that Brady brings that helps elevate his coaching... Excerpts from a 9/5 article:

“At LSU, there's a mentality in that wide receiver room,” Brady says. “There's a physicality, there's that willingness to compete every single time. When I walked in the door as a coach, I didn't have to coach that. It's understood. It's the Jarvis's, the Odell's, the Josh Reed's, the Bowe's before that set that foundation.”

"I told these guys every single day: 'This team is going to go as the receivers go,'" he says. "'There's not a day we can take off. This receiver unit is going to make this team who we are.' And then I want them to have that mentality."

A new, egalitarian offense in which, as Brady likes to emphasize, “everybody eats” will certainly help the cause. So, too, will a summer of technological investment and creative drilling.

It's like Brady says: get the popcorn ready. Everybody gets a bite, because everybody eats in this offense.
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:58 pm to
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Ensminger's experience and coordination is the canvas on which the two Joes have painted this masterpiece.
This is beautiful, man.
Posted by tigersav
Member since Nov 2019
251 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 5:04 pm to
You can try to copy this offense, but you will not have access to the talent we have for it to work. You also need a mastermind playing QB. That's why some are running this offense but it looks nothing like ours
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56559 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 5:18 pm to
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But it’s not a magic offense. I think a lot of the more talented offensive coordinators could watch LSU film now and copycat the same plays. It might not work as well without Burrow, CEH, the LSU receivers and O-line, but the play design is on film for all to see.

It is a copy cat profession. Someone will take it, hell, we got em from somewhere else.

We have a perfect storm of the perfect QB, RB, TE, WR and OL to run this, or any offensive scheme. We have a head coach coaching to demolish and demoralize, not just win.

I do not expect this each and every year, but damn, this is fun. We may never see it again no matter who stays or goes as the OC/playcaller.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4238 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 5:25 pm to
The current NFL style offense LSU is currently running will migrate throughout college football...the ripple effect has begun
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