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re: Tell the truth in mixed company?
Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:02 am to BROpaneTANK
Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:02 am to BROpaneTANK
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There’s been shown to be no coorelation between gay people and raising kids to become gay, there’s an incredible amount of kids without families, and a larger amount of financially stable gay partners dying to be parents. Seems like we have a natural solution to an age old problem.
I doubt the sample size is large enough to even know.
The problem arises when people use the system to molest children.
Its probably easier to hide those tendencies as a gay couple. (Are we going to act like all gay men are obviously gay without saying they are)
Males are more likely to be child abusers than women. Just a fact.
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:15 am to tiggerthetooth
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The problem arises when people use the system to molest children.
Do you have a substantive link that shows adoptive gay parents are molesting their children? Or is this just an example of something bad that you made up?
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:10 pm to Joshjrn
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Asexual reproduction occurs in nature. Changing sex occurs in nature. Homosexuality occurs in nature. Offspring being immediately abandoned occurs in nature. Offspring being raised by non-parent members of the pack/group occurs in nature. Hell, we have observed in nature animals “adopting” members of completely different species.
In short, actual ability to reproduce seems to give you first crack at parenting in nature, but after that, all bets are off.
Sound familiar?
Murder, cannibalism, and numerous other nasty things(like a dog taking a shite and turning around and eating it) are prevalent in nature.
Are you suggesting that these are also normal activities for civilized humans?
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:12 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Males are more likely to be child abusers than women. Just a fact.
Not if we’re talking about teachers.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:14 pm to rooster108bm
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Murder, cannibalism, and numerous other nasty things(like a dog taking a shite and turning around and eating it) are prevalent in nature.
Are you suggesting that these are also normal activities for civilized humans?
Nonsense strawman. Never once did I argue that gay couples should be allowed to adopt because said behavior is replicated in nature. On the other hand, OP argued the inverse: if such behavior didn't exist in nature, it shouldn't exist in human society. So, I attacked his argument on the grounds that said behavior does, in fact, exist in nature.
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:17 pm to czechtiger
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It means if it doesn’t occur in nature then maybe there is a reason for it. Seems odd to me to just completely disregard the way the natural world functions.
Everything about post-agrarian society disregards the way the natural world functions you dumb fricking knob.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:23 pm to czechtiger
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It means if it doesn’t occur in nature then maybe there is a reason for it. Seems odd to me to just completely disregard the way the natural world functions.
Certainly you must think that members of the faith that take vows of chastity are complete freaks then right?
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:26 pm to czechtiger
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So we dropped it. Can’t figure out if that makes us beta or not? Or just having good manners and not wanting to kill a good night? What says the OT?
Since your pub isn't the stage of MSNBC Crossfire, I think that was the right call.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:26 pm to Joshjrn
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Nonsense strawman.
I think you took what he said out of context and used all of nature as a strawman. It's obvious by his previous post he was referring to two humans of the same sex reproducing.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:33 pm to rooster108bm
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I think you took what he said out of context and used all of nature as a strawman. It's obvious by his previous post he was referring to two humans of the same sex reproducing.
That's an interesting, and incredibly narrow, way of interpreting this statement:
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It means if it doesn’t occur in nature then maybe there is a reason for it. Seems odd to me to just completely disregard the way the natural world functions.
But, let's play for a second. Let's assume you're correct. That leaves his position as follows: unless a human can do something naturally, they shouldn't do it at all?
Or is this rule only to be applied to human sexuality and child-rearing?
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:39 pm to Joshjrn
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Or is this rule only to be applied to human sexuality and child-rearing?
I never said that I agree with him.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:45 pm to rooster108bm
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I never said that I agree with him.
You said I took what he said out of context, and therefore misconstrued it. I'm asking what you believe he meant.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:48 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Obviously not since...hinders his ability to get laid
Poor reading comprehension or I didn’t express myself clearly. Both guys didn’t press the issue, didnt see the benefit of a buzzkill moment. Didn’t get laid but far enough to get the “I’d love to but I have a boyfriend” excuse from the chicK that used to bartend there.
All in all it was a successful night, had fun just came back and wanted to see where the nights action scored on the current “beta/alpha” crap I keep hearing about. I feel like it was the right call to drop the topic, kept the vibe good and no benefit to causing tension. Like somebody posted, we weren’t on Crossfire.
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:52 pm to Joshjrn
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I'm asking what you believe he meant.
He said at least three times that humans of the same sex can't reproduce.
You posted on the first page.
You seen those posts.
You used all of nature as a strawmen when you know damn well he was referring to what's natural for a human.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:55 pm to Meatball
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That’s an example of women using sex as a weapon.
Or a woman who doesn't want to frick a moron.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:59 pm to rooster108bm
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He said at least three times that humans of the same sex can't reproduce.
You posted on the first page.
You seen those posts.
You used all of nature as a strawmen when you know damn well he was referring to what's natural for a human.
I've already said that I think you're wrong. But at this point, it's not relevant. I want to discuss what you think he's proposing.
So, you believe the rule he is proposing is: Only individuals who are capable of conceiving a child together should be allowed to raise said child together? Or something else?
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:59 pm to ibldprplgld
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“Nature” doesn’t allow us to fly.....are you against medicine?
Ok, help me w my critical thinking skills. Do I have a “right” to fly? I mean that seriously. Is it a privilege or a right. I’d be surprised if you can find me documents supporting that idea.
Also, medicine should result in “good health” where the body functions as designed. There are no scenarios where 2 healthy same-sex individuals can reproduce. Does that really mean nothing to you?
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:59 pm to rooster108bm
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he was referring to what's natural for a human
What is natural for a human, as in the environment where humanity evolved, is a hunter-gatherer scenario where the group numbers don't exceed 200 members, and group cohesion is promoted by dual mating strategies of polyamory and pair-bonding. Talking about what is natural in any other context is nonsensical, as the way we live now isn't natural by any definition. Why should this particular 'argument from nature' be privileged over other 'arguments from nature?'
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 12/22/19 at 1:03 pm to czechtiger
I'm assuming you think fake tits are a crime against nature.
It's not helping the body be healthy, right?
It's not helping the body be healthy, right?
Posted on 12/22/19 at 1:03 pm to crazy4lsu
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crazy4lsu
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