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Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:18 am
Posted by champj3
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
270 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:18 am
Leaves now that LSU hasn’t asked to look elsewhere, then recruiting has very little to do with on the field accomplishments?

My goodness, LSU just ran the table on everything you could do in regards to football and family!

I get that it might not yet attract a flip our way and that an entire recruiting cycle might be needed to fully cash in on the programs accomplishments.

But damn, why the F would you leave this current class if you are currently committed and LSU wants you in?

I know I know...$$$$$
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:22 am to
Because recruiting isn’t always about team beat x so player y is crazy for going to team x.
I don’t know why so many on this board do not understand that.
Posted by Coonass
Buckhead
Member since Sep 2005
2755 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:23 am to
Not expert, but would think each case is different.

Winning has to be a large factor, but not only one.

- Playing time
- NFL pipeline
- Distance to/away from home
- System
- Coach relationship
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5539 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:23 am to
Recruiting is complicated.

Location. Some kids want to be close to home.

Depth chart. Kids want to play early.

There are a ton of reasons why kids pick a school and reasons why they may flip.

And no $$$$ is the excuse all schools use when they lose a recruit.
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6022 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:36 am to
Big time recruits have a realistic dream of the NFL. They are looking for a place that is going to help them best achieve that. Coaching, scheme,exposure surrounding talent and playing time. The college experience is important but probably secondary.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:40 am to
There is a lot more that goes into choosing a school than whether one team is better than another or which one can win a NC or conference championship.
A lot of it may not even be football related. May like the campus and curriculum of a particular school better and just feel more at home or comfortable there with the people and surroundings. It's not like what school you go to is going to make a difference in whether you get drafted or where in the draft you go. NFL can find and evaluate you at Vanderbilt just as easily as at Alabama if that is a concern. People and posters seem to think being on the best team is the primary concern of recruits and I would think it plays a smaller part than they think.
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:41 am to
A lot of it isn’t about what a team does on the field
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
3551 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:41 am to
Everyone defines "fit" deifferently. I do think it's weird how someone could go through the entire cycle and then get swayed in the final week to go against what they felt was best fit for them.

I'm sure competitors are telling them things like:
-This year's success was mainly due to Burrow being a once in a generation talent
-Brady will be leaving LSU
-You won't get as many touches
-I wouldn't be surprised if some schools will infer that they can smoke weed without getting suspended
Posted by fOrEvErLsU1987
Member since May 2019
1027 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:44 am to
To be honest we’re not really gonna reap the benefits of our accomplishments this season until next recruiting class..will it help us close this recruiting class out with a bang? Sure but next year we can truly expect to see a major boom off this years success!

Geaux Tigers!!
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9044 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:45 am to
They look to see who (other players) they are competing against. Some don't want competition.
Posted by RichardT
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2005
1472 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:59 am to
Think of it this way....

The speed limit is 70. Everyone is going 80. A few are going 120.

The ones who go 120 are going to eventually get pulled over and get a ticket (probation).
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13054 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:24 pm to
Said the same thing last night. Got downvoted.

These kids just want to get to the NFL as the highest draft pick they can get and want to get paid the most while they are waiting to get to the NFL.
Sure, there are some outliers that don’t feel this way, but the majority of them do.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:06 pm to
quote:


Leaves now that LSU hasn’t asked to look elsewhere, then recruiting has very little to do with on the field accomplishments?


Too many of you look at recruiting through the narrow lens of the team's accomplishments.

There are multiple reasons why recruits choose to go to a school. Believe it or not, there are recruits out there that couldn't give two shits about winning championships. I'm sure a lot of them think, yeah a championship would be nice but I have other things I value more.

Recruits can be motivated by any of the following (not an exhaustive list):

1. Playing time, particularly playing early
2. Program prestige
3. Relationships with coaches
4. NFL potential
5. Getting their arse kissed
6. Playing for a contender
7. Who can supply the biggest bag
8. Proximity to home
9. Who their parents like the most

For most it's a combination of the above, but not everyone has the same #1 priority. The coaches know this, they find out what makes the player tick and do their best to address it. Sometimes even the best programs can't address a players #1 need. Once people come to grips to this you'll be a lot better off.
This post was edited on 12/15/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 3:06 pm to
If recruiting was only about results on the field you'd see nothing but dream classes every year for the same few teams. I mean, you see historic classes sometimes but it's not that common.

Where you see a disaster a recruit sees opportunity. Why would a WR want to flip here? Simple. Competition. Why would he go to a much lesser program? Instant PT? Closer to home? Many reasons. It's not as clear cut as it is to you as a fan. They place value where you might not. Maybe a recruit wants a championship. Maybe they look at NFL opportunity before anything as a business decisions. Maybe they see PT. Maybe distance is the most important factor. etc.
This post was edited on 12/15/19 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Keaux10
Grand Isle
Member since Feb 2019
1759 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 4:54 pm to
Recruiting is a dirty game, just have to hope your team has tricks up their sleeves to fight the game, LOL
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20362 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 9:47 pm to
Have you ever considered that other programs have good recruiters too ? If a kid chooses another school it doesn’t automatically mean he was bought.
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