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Horowitz actually testified there was no bias because ..

Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:51 pm
He asked them and they said they werent biased, is this real life????
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:55 pm to
Government is full of incompetents and predators.
Posted by Jinks
Member since Apr 2018
607 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:56 pm to
If only they could get some of that hearsay evidence. It's been know to be better than first-hand evidence.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:57 pm to
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He asked them and they said they werent biased, is this real life????


Well, I mean, that's about all he can do.

Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
9019 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:57 pm to
That's what some of us said probably happened. He doesn't have the power to make them squeal. Durham has that power.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:59 pm to
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Well, I mean, that's about all he can do.


Well, he could have pressed them:

Hor: Are you biased?
FBI: No
Hor: Are you SURE you're not biased?
Posted by Possumslayer
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:04 pm to
You have to listen to the whole thing.....
Posted by semi23
sulphur,la
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:06 pm to
Thought he said there was no proof of bias. There was no WB to testify that there was bias.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:06 pm to
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He asked them and they said they werent biased, is this real life????



Yes. That is real life in the swamp.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:07 pm to
He said he didn't find evidence of bias. Which as far as I can see only exists with a confession -- something he wont get.

Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:10 pm to
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Horowitz actually testified there was no bias
False. He testified he does not have evidence of bias.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and I believe Horowitz was very clear in that position.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
5025 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:10 pm to
What other explanation could there be for 17 major mistakes all in favor of supporting the FISA application. If it wasn't politically motivated then what was their motivation?
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:10 pm to
Horowitz: “So when you said Hillary Clinton should win 100 million to zero, were you being biased?”

Lisa Page: “Nope.”

Horowitz: “Well okay then. No bias.”



That’s essentially what’s happened here. And the Dems have the gall to act like they’re vindicated and beat Trump.

I have never felt truly hateful about anything in my life, but I honestly hate these people. This is so beyond absurd and evil I fricking hate it and I can’t wait for everyone who perpetrated and everyone perpetuating this shite to burn in hell.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 3:12 pm
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:25 pm to
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He said he didn't find evidence of bias. Which as far as I can see only exists with a confession -- something he wont get.
Nonsense.

If someone goes, “No really, the water I poured on him was dry.”

I’m quite certain everyone on the planet can indisputably confirm that was a lie, and because it was a lie they can also confirm the motive, as dishonesty logically purports malicious intent. And all that unquestionably also confirms the bias.

No, the problem here is that Horowitz is a fricking swamp rat covering for the swamp. It’s absolutely asinine that he couldn’t conclude animus bias from people who broke rules and laws and even openly stated their goddamn negative feelings with words in the process of trying to undermine and ruin Trump and his surrogates.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6474 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:27 pm to
At the end he kept saying accept for strock n page
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2168 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:28 pm to
This is the problem with people focusing on an IG report. He is supposed to steer as clear as possible from making judgement. Unfortunately, as Senator Kennedy said, the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

IG's are there to uncover, recommend, and refer. The next level, such as Durham, is tasked with figuring out intent and premeditation.

Wait for the Durham report for the meat. It'll most certainly be there.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
134994 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:56 pm to
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Horowitz actually testified there was no bias
Actually, he didn't. He did not say there was no bias. He said that given his tools and authority, he could not differentiate bias from buffoonery. But he said it was one or the other.

Regarding "buffoonery", the assumption that 17 such separate instances by an entire team of the FBI's top attorneys and agents could ever occur solely d/t to unbiased incompetence is beyond unbelievable.

Horowitz's testimony suggested impossible stupidity should be considered plausible. He suggested that an entire team both as individuals and collectively could make 17 horrendous and rudimentary mistakes in the FISA process. Acceptance of Horowitz's testimony requires massive credulity.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154153 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 3:57 pm to
Over a beer, the IG would say the fbi is ate up with bias.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 4:26 pm
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 4:23 pm to
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This is the problem with people focusing on an IG report. He is supposed to steer as clear as possible from making judgement. Unfortunately, as Senator Kennedy said, the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

IG's are there to uncover, recommend, and refer. The next level, such as Durham, is tasked with figuring out intent and premeditation.
Again, this is nonsense.

Horowitz IS making tons of judgement calls. That’s precisely what he’s doing when he determines something was a “mistake” or “negligence” or “gross negligence” or “criminal”, and then he refers someone for prosecution.

Also, “There was no direct evidence of bias...” is not only a judgement call, but it’s an outrageously absurd bullshite lie.

Strzok and Page literally told us all over and over in released text messages that they hated Trump and his followers, while admitting they were taking steps to undermine him explicitly because of this prejudice they had against him.

I mean the goddamn words are there and irrefutably biased as all fricking possible.

But then somehow he didn’t think their subsequent anti-Trump actions weren’t motivated by their explicitly voiced words???

That is such obscene bullshite like there has never been such bullshite before. That’s the Mt. Everest of total fricking bullshite.

Horowitz flat out lied and filled that report with swamp covered bullshite.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 4:26 pm
Posted by southdowns84
Member since Dec 2009
1608 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 4:49 pm to
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Thought he said there was no proof of bias.


Correct.

People are having a very hard time grasping this.
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