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re: Poll: Majority of Republicans think Trump is a better president than Lincoln
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:55 pm to La Place Mike
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:55 pm to La Place Mike
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Compare and contrast Obama's and Clinton's military service to Trumps
saw your post before the edit
which draft did obama dodge again?
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Posted on 11/30/19 at 12:37 am to crewdepoo
We proudly say "Hail Trump" for a reason, mates.
Second only to Washington... believe me.
Second only to Washington... believe me.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 12:37 am
Posted on 11/30/19 at 12:40 am to Sentrius
Lincoln was the greatest enemy and threat to the Constitution in US history... until 2008. Fact.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 12:43 am to Chancellor
quote:
Fact
opinion
and an ignorant one
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 12:45 am
Posted on 11/30/19 at 1:04 am to Sentrius
A perfect prototype of Trump Athoritarian Syndrome.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 2:09 am to FightnBobLafollette
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Neither of them avoided the draft by claiming a fake medical condition.
You have been divorced four times and your dogs keep running into traffic and die. Ever wonder why? It's your shitty personality.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 2:25 am to Sentrius
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just to keep a ragtag band of states in the country he presides over is not someone I will respect.
Interesting way to describe ending slavery.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 5:17 am to wookalar1013
quote:Which draft did Trump dodge?
which draft did obama dodge again?
Facts only.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 5:25 am to Sentrius
Get rekt, abe.
Sic semper tyrannis
Sic semper tyrannis
Posted on 11/30/19 at 6:08 am to Sentrius
That's a pretty good indication of just how good a president Trump actually is. I mean none of us lived in Lincoln's time to actually judge for ourselves. We have to base that opinion on history books and what we were taught, not experienced. No doubt there were some little things about ole Abe that pissed people off just like there are with Trump but we never read about those. So, knowing how biased historians can be that write our history, I'll go with Trump also.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 6:26 am to Sentrius
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to keep a ragtag band of states in the country
Lincoln shat all over both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
If the U.N. had existed, he would have shite on its Charter too.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 7:08 am
Posted on 11/30/19 at 6:29 am to FightnBobLafollette
quote:
Neither of them avoided the draft by claiming a fake medical condition.
Clinton avoided the draft because he "loathed" the
military.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 6:51 am to Homesick Tiger
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No doubt there were some little things about ole Abe that pissed people off just like there are with Trump but we never read about those. So, knowing how biased historians can be that write our history, I'll go with Trump also.
Absolutely this. Our school and university history textbooks have been ever so conveniently kind to Lincoln. After reading a LOT of material about Lincoln, his policies, his beliefs, his papers, his writings, and his actions, I long ago came to the conclusion that he is more responsible for the Civil War than anyone. He was a tyrant who stomped all over the Constitution. Ironic it is that the South was fighting to save and live by the very same Constitution that Lincoln disregarded for the sake of money and tariffs. Go ahead and downvote away. The historical facts are there if you dig for them.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 6:53 am to Sentrius
Well he is considering Lincoln’s war of northern aggression and his raping of the constitution.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 6:54 am to Sentrius
Some interesting things hidden in that table.
Republicans constituted less than 30% of the sample size.
603 of the responders were from the South, 338 from the West, and less than 300 from the North or East.
Despite sampling 512 Democrats only 471 in the poll claimed to vote for Hilary in 16. Despite only having 410 Republican voters 437 claimed voting for Trump.
76% of the poll were registered voters, but only 64% mentioned voting Hilary or Trump.
Likely implications:
Donald Trump being considered better than Lincoln is probably overstated in this poll due to small sample size and overrepresented Southerners.
Democrats had poor turnout in 2016, and probably didn't have a ton of Independent appeal.
More people voted for Trump than said they were Republican. By definition he was pulling in Independent voters, and likely had good Republican turnout.
The disparity in registered voters to actual voters implies people either stayed home for the polls or didn't want to state who they voted for. Given the D and I slant of this poll, both of these are likely positive for Trump.
Mitigating Factor:
1500 is a shite sample size for a political poll.
Republicans constituted less than 30% of the sample size.
603 of the responders were from the South, 338 from the West, and less than 300 from the North or East.
Despite sampling 512 Democrats only 471 in the poll claimed to vote for Hilary in 16. Despite only having 410 Republican voters 437 claimed voting for Trump.
76% of the poll were registered voters, but only 64% mentioned voting Hilary or Trump.
Likely implications:
Donald Trump being considered better than Lincoln is probably overstated in this poll due to small sample size and overrepresented Southerners.
Democrats had poor turnout in 2016, and probably didn't have a ton of Independent appeal.
More people voted for Trump than said they were Republican. By definition he was pulling in Independent voters, and likely had good Republican turnout.
The disparity in registered voters to actual voters implies people either stayed home for the polls or didn't want to state who they voted for. Given the D and I slant of this poll, both of these are likely positive for Trump.
Mitigating Factor:
1500 is a shite sample size for a political poll.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:02 am to Sentrius
Trump abides by the Constitution.
Lincoln shite all over it.
Trump wins.
Lincoln shite all over it.
Trump wins.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:03 am to Sentrius
Democrats love expansive federal government, shitting on the constitution, meaningless political pandering, grandstanding, war, violence, and death.
No wonder they love Lincoln.
No wonder they love Lincoln.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 7:04 am
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:06 am to La Place Mike
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Compare and contrast Obama's and Clinton's military service to Trumps
And the fact that those two were far more hawkish.
Bone spurs would be a legitimate point if he were a warmonger. But calling someone a chickendove is stupid.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:11 am to Sentrius
Well let’s be honest, Lincoln was one of the worst tyrants to ever hold the office.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:15 am to xiv
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Trump is also a better parent. Lincoln's kids are all dead. Trump's? Alive and kicking. Lincoln never lettered in shite.
Ok I laughed at that one a little.
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