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re: TPC Plant in Port Neches Explosion: Port Neches, Groves, and parts of Nederland Evacuated

Posted on 11/27/19 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 4:00 pm to
Holy shite
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 4:20 pm to
It's not every day you see a tower flying through the air.

That'll make the highlight reels.
Posted by agreenway6
SETX
Member since Aug 2017
819 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 4:26 pm to
Whole area (Port Neches, Groves, parts of Nederland and Port Arthur) are under a mandatory evacuations. Crazy stuff, man. Got lots of friends that live close
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 4:47 pm to
ABC just had an overhead view that shows fire over most of their process unit. Crazy looking scene

aerial view
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted by TheBigHurt
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
2379 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 4:52 pm to
How long does this last? Ash is raining out of the smoke.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 4:57 pm to
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How long does this last? Ash is raining out of the smoke.

Probably until the fire is out.
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:02 pm to
No telling honestly. It doesnt look like they have it under control at all. Them putting larger and larger mandatory evac notices out isnt exactly settling news
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103327 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:04 pm to
Wow the tower shooting off was unnerving
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 5:05 pm
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12125 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:15 pm to
Live feed. Fire is too close for comfort to those sphere tanks
LINK
Posted by Goats and Joes
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
363 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

Whole area (Port Neches, Groves, parts of Nederland and Port Arthur) are under a mandatory evacuations. Crazy stuff, man. Got lots of friends that live close


10 day evac is what I was just told. Pretty nuts
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:20 pm to
Those are the tanks I'd be the most worried about honestly. Any plant I've worked in, always some volatile stuff stored in those sphere tanks.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3899 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:26 pm to
Well that didn’t take long. Don’t even know the cause, but hey, willful misconduct and negligence.

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And in an attempt to protect these residents, a local law firm around noon filed a class action law suit and an application for a temporary restraining order and injunction against TPC. Chip Ferguson, managing partner of The Ferguson Law Firm, said if granted the filings will preserve evidence at the explosion site to preserve answers “in the scorched rubble inside the TPC plant.” “It’s a tragedy made even worse due to the holiday season,” he said. “It’s scary from the position that you’re asleep and wake up with your doors being blown in and the sky on fire and you’re packing up and getting your children and you don’t know what happened. It’s hard to imagine anything more terrifying than that.” The lawsuit alleges against TPC negligence, willful misconduct and private nuisance, among other charges.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Any plant I've worked in, always some volatile stuff stored in those sphere tanks.

Liquefied gases are stored in those tanks because spheres have the lowest surface area for any given volume. It minimizes the heat transferred into the stored material from its surroundings. They're usually very well insulated.

Things like propane, butane, butadiene, ethane, propylene, LPG, etc., are what's typically in those things.
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:41 pm to
Dont get me wrong, TPC does have financial liability for this mess. But good Lord let the damn event finish before starting lawsuits. Pretty clear they havent had time to safely investigate the cause or even the effects.
Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
689 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:47 pm to


Here’s something scary maybe. The red box in the bottom right is where the fire is. The white circle at the top left, I’m guessing, is a storage/transfer facility on the river a couple miles away. Why is the road blocked off next to that remote facility?

ETA: Actually it looks like everything north of the facility to the river is closed off to traffic.
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93809 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:49 pm to
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Hard to believe there are no fatalities yet.


First explosion happened around 1-130 in the morning. Thankfully, we’re close to the Thanksgiving holidays and if there weren’t anything going on if the plant was running like it was supposed to, then there wouldn’t have been many people out in the unit and probably had their feet up somewhere in a control room.

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Officials at the TPC Group say all of their employees are accounted for according to Branick.

One person suffered a broken arm and another has already been released from the hospital Branick said.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93809 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

Fire is too close for comfort to those sphere tanks


Can confirm from someone that the fire has gotten to the spheres and there is butadiene in some of them. The only thing the ERT can do is keep them cool with river water and hope for the best.

If the spheres go, it could level a 4-5 mile radius in PN-G
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 5:55 pm
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12125 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

the spheres go, it could level a 4-5 mile radius in PN-G

Yeah that’s pretty scary. Just heard the mandatory evacuation totals 50K people. Yikes
Hopefully all the foam supplies were replenished following ITC. They used a lot from the Hou Ship channel area
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 6:15 pm to
I wonder how this will affect the Motiva Refinery in PAR.
Posted by sloponmyZZtop
Member since Aug 2019
175 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 6:22 pm to
Wow.. we build tanks for them. Could’ve been me
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