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re: Anyone else have a love-hate relationship with watchmen?

Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:50 pm to
Ah. That makes sense. He's some sort of villain? Trying to escape and entertaining himself along the way?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:19 pm to
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Ah. That makes sense. He's some sort of villain?


Dude that's Ozymandias; the watchman who dropped the squid on NYC.

Dr Manhattan probably stuck him on that moon as punishment for killing 3 million people.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:31 pm to
Not only that, but I think characterizing the 7th calvary as the unequivocal villain will end up significantly missing the mark. I think they are more than just the next iteration of the KKK/Cyclops.

As I understand it, gray lines are the hallmark of the watchmen comic. None of the key players is all good or all bad. I suspect that will be the case here as well, with the 7th cavalry likely to be working towards freeing people from the fear created by viedt’s lie. Since they’re rorschach followers, seems likely that they want to unveil the squid scheme same as he did. I suspect we’ll ultimately come to understand their motivations well, and likely even borderline empathize with them. That’s what watchmen is all about.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14391 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:37 pm to
Yeah. But that's the extent I know about him. I don't know any of the comic shite. I must have missed it but I thought he was chilling somewhere in Europe. Didn't realize he was banished to a moon.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:43 pm to
Yep and he was trying to signal that satellite that was passing by.,. The Asian chick's perhaps?

It seems like maybe the Asian chick is helping Will and Night and maybe hunting for viedt to stop whatever the senator has in mind. I'm guessing he may end up helping in some way against 7th Calvary but likely not the way the Asian is expecting.

Whatever is going on with him is the most intriguing part of the show to me.
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
2136 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:53 pm to
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The whole nostalgia drug was a lazy plot device so they could devote an entire episode to how racist every white cop and business owner in NY is and how they had nothing better to do than beat up and throw racial slurs at Will/Night. That's exactly how it went I'm sure.


I think the most important part of that episode is the mind control part.

Anyone else think that meteor or whatever was Ozymandias returning?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36196 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 11:04 pm to
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Anyone else think that meteor or whatever was Ozymandias returning?

Well, now I am.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:28 am to
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Dude that's Ozymandias; the watchman who dropped the squid on NYC.


Wait, is this show following the movie's "Dr. Manhattan destroyed New York" or the comic's "Veidt created and alien squid with psionic powers and dropped that on New York" storyline?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112489 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:05 am to
They are using the comic ending
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2647 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:18 pm to
I wish we could have seen fleshing out of HJ from Moore. He was a very minor, secondary character in the book- long dead. Since then, one writer turned him into a serial killer and another made him into a white-hating racist black man with Caucasian makeup. smdh
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22534 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 2:11 pm to
I love the comic and Snyder's film. The series is great if you like gay interracial sex with your hatred of white people.
Posted by TIGERSTORM
parts unknown
Member since Feb 2009
4531 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:04 pm to
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That was a wasted hour of my life that did very little to advance to overall plot.


It was one of the best hours of tv this year and as Fewer Kilometers pointed out gave you a lot of backstory.
Posted by revenger42
Member since Oct 2019
101 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:05 pm to
Can’t stand Night Nun, Looking Glass is okay, director is racist as frick. Lots of good plot twists, but there should be better characters.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19708 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:31 pm to
I completely disagree. I think the show is doing a good job of using the kkk/7th cavalry as a distraction to what is really going on. The last episode was really good.
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