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re: Abraham releases new poll- but is it really good for him?

Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13514 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:23 pm to
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That could be amended out of the constitution at any time, and parts of such proposals have been put to the voters before and rejected.

A constitutional convention is not needed to do that. Why do we need a convention?

I'm not necessarily opposed to it, I just think of it as a side issue, and not important enough to make a difference among candidates for governor.


Fair enough.

But Louisiana has had 11 Constitutions since its first in 1812 or about 1 every 19 years. Every election we have multiple amendments to the 1974 Constitution because the current constitution micro manages our states government. This election we have 4 proposals: Amendment 1- Create a property tax exemption for certain goods destined for the Outer Continental Shelf, Amendment 2- Allow the Education Excellence Fund to finance three more schools and public TV, Amendment 3- Allow the Board of Tax Appeals to rule on constitutional questions, and Amendment 4 – Give New Orleans the ability to create a residential property tax exemption for affordable housing developments.

Last year we had 6 amendments proposed! Should these issues be handled by our constitution, or by laws passed by the legislature and signed by the governor and subject to judicial review? Frankly it’s ridiculous.

Even more ridiculous is the over 300 amendments tacked to the 1974 Constitution in the last 45 years!

Remember, in order to change the budget of a constitutionally protected state bureaucracy, 2/3rds of both state house and Senate must vote yes. Then it must be added to a statewide election not less than 2 months later. And if it’s micromanaging 5 parishes or less it must also receive the majority vote of all concerned parishes.

Hell of a way to run a railroad!
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:24 pm to
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Same as JBE


Exactly.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:37 pm to
Abraham is low energy establishment. He’s running for Governor because he knows there’s no room for him to move up in the GOP House hierarchy. He’ll never be like Scalise.
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 2:03 pm to
that’s better than a low-energy cuck.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40233 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 2:32 pm to
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support for tax funded private education/ vouchers for all


Louisiana has been in the bottom 3 for public schools for the better part of 50 years. How anyone that still supports giving money to public schools over vouchers is either completely ignorant of the facts or needs a psychiatric evaluation for delusional disorder ASAP.
Posted by Ron Grover
Member since Sep 2019
250 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 2:59 pm to
I've been lurkin a while but finally decided to set up an account and jump in.

Just to clear things up...calling Abraham "establishment" and saying "he's running because there's no room for him to move up in the hierarchy" is totally false.

Abraham is anything but establishment. He's as much an "outsider" as Rispone.

The dude ran for office for the first time ever a few years ago. His resume is as equally impressive as Rispone's...albeit in a different field. Well...fields because Abraham has a few degrees.

I'm not stepping on your toes, but Abraham ran for Congress because a huge, raging weirdo named Vance Mcalister tarnished the office while being busted on a security camera making out with his friend's wife.

Abraham stepped up to the plate a few short years ago. Seems to me he's doing exactly the same thing now. He and Rispone were cut from a fairly similar piece of cloth. As recently as this summer Rispone was on camera praising Abraham for his integrity and running for the right reasons.

Only thing that's changed is Rispone got greedy and decided to take his eye off the ball.

I can't believe my first post is this long and boring.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14529 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:10 pm to
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I can't believe my first post is this long and boring.


Boo! You suck!!!






Just kidding, welcome to your new addiction!

Posted by dixiechick
Member since Sep 2017
918 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:14 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Ron Grover
Member since Sep 2019
250 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:21 pm to
Haha! Not to mention you can't spell Blame without Bel.

That's the direction Rispone should've gone, but he didn't.

Technically can't spell Rispone without P E N I S R, but that seems kind of inappropriate.

Meanwhile the governor's people laugh at the way 2019 has suddenly become a repeat of 2015's primary.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40233 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:31 pm to
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I can't believe my first post is this long and boring.




Your first post is suppose to be an introduction to the OT.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23215 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:43 pm to
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Just to clear things up...calling Abraham "establishment" and saying "he's running because there's no room for him to move up in the hierarchy" is totally false.

Abraham is anything but establishment. He's as much an "outsider" as Rispone.

The dude ran for office for the first time ever a few years ago. His resume is as equally impressive as Rispone's...albeit in a different field. Well...fields because Abraham has a few degrees.


I'm not an Abraham fan, but I agree with this. It is comical how everyone cheers and pushes "outsider" candidates but they immediately deem them "establishment, swamp, politician" as soon as they enter office

Rispone's big "jabs" during the debate were that he kept calling JBE and Abraham 2 politicians arguing and how he's the only outsider. In reality, they are both pretty much outsiders and not typical politicians.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29372 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:46 pm to
Rispone is exactly what we don’t need. Hes another Louisiana politician that will be more of the same. The attacks. The campaign basically being entirely about Trump for some reason. I dunno, bad feeling about him. My vote is Abraham
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56642 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:46 pm to
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What is interesting is Abraham felt the need to release a poll claiming a "lead" that is really just a statistical tie between Rispone and he. In fact with a margin of error of 4.6%, Abraham's own poll could mean he is actually losing to Rispone.

He could also be leading by more.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67274 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:50 pm to
Abraham isn’t a RINO nor is he a part of some wicked establishment, but I think he gets that reaction because of his platform. People associate outsiders with radicalism, and Rispone’s platform is pretty radical (hence why he’s not running ads based on it). Rispone wants to completely reform the way our state government functions. Abraham wants to tweak and trim around the edges with only moderate changes to the status quo. People associate the status-quo to the establishment whom generally benefit from it.

The reality is that Abraham is not charismatic or radical enough to be seen as an outsider. He just comes across as another boring old north la baptist preacher that means well. It’s not exciting. It’s safe.
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 3:51 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56642 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:52 pm to
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Rispone’s platform is pretty radical (hence why he’s not running ads based on it).
Serious question. What is his platform?
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3388 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:53 pm to
Dr. Ralph Abraham is the best human being to ever run for governor in Louisiana.

He is a genuinely good man who loves God, his family, and this country.

Many will criticize him for his faith but that is who he is and he is not ashamed of it.

I have never been able to vote in Louisiana, but wish I could vote for Dr. Ralph Abraham.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67274 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:58 pm to
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rious question. What is his platform?


Constitutional Convention to restructure state government, taxation, spending, and tax credits
Wholesale reform of higher ed
Expansion of school choice programs in k-12
Repeal medicaid expansion
Restore work requirements for state entitlement programs
Tort reform
Posted by Got Heeem
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
3631 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:58 pm to
He's more conservative than scalise.
Posted by Got Heeem
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
3631 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 3:59 pm to
You're right. Doc is a man of integrity. Rispone is a weasel.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56642 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 4:00 pm to
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Constitutional Convention to restructure state government, taxation, spending, and tax credits
Wholesale reform of higher ed
Expansion of school choice programs in k-12
Repeal medicaid expansion
Restore work requirements for state entitlement programs
Tort reform
Then why is he running commercials that focus on airplanes and being disingenuous about voting with Pelosi.
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