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I wish our resident Dems would actually explain their support for Dem policies

Posted on 9/21/19 at 11:58 pm
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9962 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 11:58 pm
The vast majority only know how to bash Trump...

I'd love to see them actually explain why raising taxes and redistributing wealth is good for the economy, why a border wall won't curtail a significant amount of illegal immigration, why we should increase environmental regulations even further while other countries DGAF and will surpass our economy, why we should let our allies walk over us in trade just so we don't hurt their feelings, why a strong and expansive military doesn't discourage other countries from taking advantage of the US, and how welfare/UBI doesn't discourage low income people from working more hours in fear of losing their benefits...

All we get is orange man bad... I feel ripped off by the libbies here

Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14406 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 12:02 am to
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explain why raising taxes and redistributing wealth is good for the economy

You don't understand leftists. Most don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. They aren't looking as far as the economy. They are looking at themselves. They are "have nots" and since others "have" they see themselves in a position to gain.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 3:19 am to
I have a good friend that is very liberal. He's a teacher. We rarely talk politics, but he is one of those rare libs that actually makes a little sense.

The other day we were talking about fundraising that his students do to earn their semi annual class trip. He was saying that most teachers put all the funds the students raise into a general fund. But he puts his students funds into separate accounts for each student because he doesn't think it's fair that certain students do all the work and don't get rewarded.

I was speechless.
Posted by mailman
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
6143 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 3:28 am to
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The vast majority only know how to bash Trump...

I'd love to see them actually explain why raising taxes and redistributing wealth is good for the economy, why a border wall won't curtail a significant amount of illegal immigration, why we should increase environmental regulations even further while other countries DGAF and will surpass our economy, why we should let our allies walk over us in trade just so we don't hurt their feelings, why a strong and expansive military doesn't discourage other countries from taking advantage of the US, and how welfare/UBI doesn't discourage low income people from working more hours in fear of losing their benefits...

All we get is orange man bad... I feel ripped off by the libbies h



Explain to me the relationship between fiscal responsibility and the national debt? Im curious how with lower taxes and smaller budgets we have increased our national debt to over a trillion dollars? What national crisis have we experienced? Why dont you talk about ther numbers more often or we just going to ignore facts per usual?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 4:03 am to
So you cannot explain leftist policies?

You cannot raise enough fricking taxes to “pay” for all of the idiotic ideas of the left.

Never

No way
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26316 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 4:28 am to
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The other day we were talking about fundraising that his students do to earn their semi annual class trip. He was saying that most teachers put all the funds the students raise into a general fund. But he puts his students funds into separate accounts for each student because he doesn't think it's fair that certain students do all the work and don't get rewarded.


So he is a hypocrite and doesn't even know it?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12609 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 5:13 am to
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Im curious how with lower taxes and smaller budgets we have increased our national debt to over a trillion dollars


In what year did the US have a smaller national budget.

Ummm...our national debt is well over a trillion dollars...What are you talking about?
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9962 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 6:59 am to
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Explain to me the relationship between fiscal responsibility and the national debt? Im curious how with lower taxes and smaller budgets we have increased our national debt to over a trillion dollars?


Do you seriously not know the answer to this?

Federal tax revenues hit record highs last year even considering the tax cuts. So that leads us to the easy conclusion that spending is the reason the deficit, not debt as you say, is projected to hit a trillion.

What does the Federal government spend the most on? Safety net programs created by Dems over the decades that added a huge bloat to the budget and are underfunded because politicians didn't think things through before they made all these promises.






I hope you appreciate the education I just gave you. Now go forth and use it for good libbie.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 7:04 am to
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would actually explain their support for Dem policies


Obedience without question. Loyalty until Underverse come.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 7:05 am to
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we have increased our national debt to over a trillion dollars?


Oh my sweet child
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35102 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 7:07 am to
Yeah I think it's in the gazillions now.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16001 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 7:33 am to
Their general philosophy works as follows based on the premise that no one should ever be poor.
Level the playing field through government intervention, regulation and taxation so that the bottom rises up and the top comes down to a perceived “utopian” sweet spot.

Healthcare is a big one: they believe that no one deserves better access to healthcare so if they can Force the wealthy into a watered down gov system, it lessens the divide between the top and bottom since the bottom gets access to that same watered down system. This also leads to less power for the employer who no longer doles out health insurance through work. Note that Bernie and eliz warren are dead set against employers offering private health insurance. Take away power from the employer.

Otherwise, it’s all about economic spread of wealth. The problem becomes what to do when you run out of other peoples money and/or the natural resources that they’d need to generate money.
Russia relies on their oil money to fund their government. Well it get dicey when that price drops...
then consider the desire to move away from fossil fuels and there is no resource that the gov can use to fund itself! Lol. Total imbiciles.

Oh, and They don’t tell you that the government workers and politicians are exempt and end up in the upper economic tier.

Conservatives have come to the realization that poor people will always exist. There’s no point in trying to rig a system to level it out. Survival of the fittest comes into play. Get yourself prepared for life and strive to succeed. Free markets will sort it out.

The middle ground is where America has generally been but it’s shifting to a Europen socialistic model. Healthcare and Private wealth is in the crosshairs right now.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16001 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 8:06 am to
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Explain to me the relationship between fiscal responsibility and the national debt? Im curious how with lower taxes and smaller budgets we have increased our national debt to over a trillion dollars?


You talking about deficit or debt? The debt is over 20 trillion dollars. The deficit is not over a trillion. You seem confused.

And if we had a budget that met the tax receipts of the prior year, we wouldn’t have debt problems. Neither party wants that though.

Also, we have a federal reserve bank that is controlled by the government that continually bails the gov out without any accountability. So they keep running deficits. It’s really just a huge ponzi scheme.
This post was edited on 9/22/19 at 8:08 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 8:08 am to
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Explain to me the relationship between fiscal responsibility and the national debt? Im curious how with lower taxes and smaller budgets we have increased our national debt to over a trillion dollars? What national crisis have we experienced? Why dont you talk about ther numbers more often or we just going to ignore facts per usual


ROFLMAO

OP, "Will Democrats explain they're stances?"

mailmoron "Nope, not gonna do it, your ideas are bad"
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93629 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 8:10 am to
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mailman


What a shining example of what the op asked

Cant answer and just deflects
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 8:10 am to
The rest of you in this thread SUCK at spotting a thread derailer.

Mailman's entire purpose with his post was to change the thread away from the OP question and you all fricking fell for it
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35102 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 8:15 am to
You think this was his intention though? Looked to me like just took a wrong turn in Albuquerque. Unknowingly. Maybe just went off on a wrong tangent.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 8:23 am to
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ou think this was his intention though? Looked to me like just took a wrong turn in Albuquerque. Unknowingly. Maybe just went off on a wrong tangent
yes it was obviously his intention. how long have you been on message boards? They do this literally every time. if a thread is started where they don't like the subject they simply come in and get everybody else to talk about a different subject
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35102 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 8:33 am to
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how long have you been on message boards?

I guess not long enough to master the more nuanced tactics.

Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 10:40 am to
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So he is a hypocrite and doesn't even know it?


Pretty much. I feel like he is one of those that grew up Democrat because his parents are hardcore liberals and he just hasn't grown out of it.

It just cracked me up when he said all that about deserving to keep what they earned and it wasn't fair for it to go in the general fund.
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