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Advocate shilling for anti-StG forces - front page story about Sandy Springs

Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:51 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
114876 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:51 am
What's that?

A town in Georgia formed in ATL suburbs in the mid-00s that went with privatized services and is now going to a more traditional municipal model.

Subheadline?

Sandy Springs was model for St. George.

What the front page doesn't say (and what's buried in the story) is that after 14 years and improvement in the local economy, the more traditional model is more economically feasible for SS.

frick the Advocate.
This post was edited on 9/21/19 at 9:53 am
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17602 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:02 am to
After 14 years ehh....

Maybe you can get a school within 28 years
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:28 am to
quote:

After 14 years ehh....

Maybe you can get a school within 28 years
Still waiting after far more years for any La. city/town to have a half decent decent school. I know I'll never live to see La. cities have good ones.

A building with "school" written on it is no great accomplishment. Enough taxation and anyplace can slap together one.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32686 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:30 am to
I live in Sandy Springs and if your St. George ended up the same way as we did you’d be just fine.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11815 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:47 am to
The Advocate brought us to where we are today. Baton Rouge is a mess because of them. STG doesn’t exist if BR isn’t a mess.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32196 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:57 am to
If The Advocate is against St. George, that is reason enough to be for it, absent any other input.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17602 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Still waiting after far more years for any La. city/town to have a half decent decent school. I know I'll never live to see La. cities have good ones.


Oh no doubt


Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:17 am to
Having been involved in a similar effort years ago in another state, I don’t see what the big deal is with the article. Contracting services to begin with is the financially responsible approach. You convert these services to in-house as it makes sense for the municipality. Bringing on full time public employees and all the associated costs while the city is still wet behind the ears could completely tie the hands of those tasked with running the city efficiently. The key is hiring a highly capable City Manager (or whatever you want to name it) and providing some safeguards from the daily political bullshite.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
114876 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:21 am to
Correct.

But that's not the tenor of the headline/subheadline and blurb that's on the front page.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49455 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:27 am to
quote:

If The Advocate is against St. George, that is reason enough to be for it, absent any other input.


This is a sad commentary - I loved the Advocate when I was at LSU in the late 50's. I loved it even more when I went to other parts of the country after graduation and saw the 'big papers' which didn't cover their own area on the sports pages as well as the Advocate did back in BR.

When I finally settled in the Houston area for 35 years, I loved the Houston Chronicle - it was the conservative alternative to the commie leaning Houston Post.

As a teenager growing up in the woods of Vernon Parish I was treated to the Shreveport Times and the Beaumont Enterprise - where I ventured from the comics to the editorial pages to read the "intellectual" take on current events - Loved them all.

NOW - from the samples I have seen from all these once-great journals they are nothing but air-horns blown by leftwing scum.

Is there a newspaper in America that covers the news fairly??
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:27 am to
Understood. I see what you’re saying and concur. Headline is inaccurate and ridiculously subjective “journalism.”
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42504 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 9:36 am to
Right now SG is not incorporated. We send our local sales tax dollars to BR and they spend it as they see fit.

Do we get something in return? Certainly, but after years of debating the subject no one can tell us exactly what. Throw in the fact two mayors and two administrations as well as the city hall crowd has fought as hard as they could to keep our money you have to know we are paying for a lot of their “stuff”.

It’s time to move on. Vote for SG. Vote to become a city. Vote to be like Sandy Springs and take more control of your own destiny. After that I trust we can do better than what they are doing right now.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59016 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Still waiting after far more years for any La. city/town to have a half decent decent school.


That will never happen because there is too much state and federal control due to money from those levels coming in. This is why private schools perform far better on average.

Not all communities are equal, local control of schools exposes that. State and federal control seeks to make them equal but instead of pulling up the failing students (or making curriculum for them like we used to) they instead lower the bar on quality for the sake of balance.

Until this mindset changes (whether it's by raising the bar or allowing communities to set their own standards through local control, we will continue with nothing but the same from our public schools.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177050 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 10:32 am to
Good thing no one in St George gets the advocate
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23830 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

I live in Sandy Springs and if your St. George ended up the same way as we did you’d be just fine.


If it’s anything like it was when I left GA in 2013, Sandy Springs ain’t hurting. If that’s the best “failure” story The Advocate found, everybody should be thoroughly convinced to vote for St. George.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12635 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

loved the Advocate when I was at LSU in the late 50's
Damn Bandit, how old are you?

I thought you were born in 58... is that when you graduated college?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
114876 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 7:33 am to
And...in today's Advocate, top of the fold?

"In St. George, Emotions Run High"

Story of two families - one for, one against.

One for (family with two small kids) - education

One against - older empty next couple - proposed St. George is "exclusionary" (only 12% black), plus uncertainty about the city's finances.

Now...the interesting part is on 6A where the younger family says THEY WILL MOVE TO ASCENSION if it doesn't pass for better schools while the older couple will just move into BR proper.

In other words, St. George is EBR Parish's only hope to stem outmigration.

This is all on the front page
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88883 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 7:48 am to
quote:

One against - older empty next couple - proposed St. George is "exclusionary" (only 12% black)


I love this argument. It’s like they legit think StG is gonna put up walls with armed guards to keep black people out.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:09 am to
Will St. George have a school system?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
114876 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Will St. George have a school system?


That's certainly the goal.

Unfortunately, the entire state gets to weigh in on that one and I am certain the screams of racism in that election will make the current election look like an afternoon tea.
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