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re: Saban - “It was a huge mistake to leave college football”

Posted on 9/18/19 at 9:34 am to
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/18/19 at 9:34 am to
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You're more loyal to Saban than he was to LSU when he decided to sign up with our division rival. Sad!
he didn't leave LSU to sign with our rival. He went to the NFL. When that failed, he took the best job available. He owed no loyalty to LSU at that time.

I'll never understand people thinking Saban dumped us for Alabama. He did no such thing.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 9:39 am to
No coach in the history of sport has had a better day than the day Michael Clayton and Marcus Spears signed to play for Nick Saban.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10330 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 9:43 am to
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he didn't leave LSU to sign with our rival. He went to the NFL. When that failed, he took the best job available. He owed no loyalty to LSU at that time.

I'll never understand people thinking Saban dumped us for Alabama. He did no such thing.


I'm talking about when he left Miami and, of all the college jobs he could have taken, chose our division rival.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/18/19 at 9:49 am to

Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
23440 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 9:50 am to
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The LSU saban complex is one of the most complicated in college football history. Good god.


It really is. I hate the fricking man, but I still have a framed print of him holding up the 2003 BCS crystal ball hanging up in my office. Complex may be insufficient to describe the relationship.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 10:22 am to
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We should’ve fired Miles when he wanted to come back to coach college



Yeah sure, in the midst of an 11 win season we're going to fire the coach. No self respecting program would've done that.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18191 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 10:30 am to
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You're more loyal to Saban than he was to LSU when he decided to sign up with our division rival. Sad!


I have zero loyalty to Saban just like I expect Saban to have zero loyalty to LSU or Miles for that matter.

Dude was offered a top tier job for a lot of money. It was a no brainer, and the truly “sad” thing is people still crying about it 12 years later.
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 10:33 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
82696 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 10:32 am to
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When that failed, he took the best job available. He owed no loyalty to LSU at that time.
I disagree with this.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18191 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 10:33 am to
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he didn't leave LSU to sign with our rival. He went to the NFL. When that failed, he took the best job available. He owed no loyalty to LSU at that time. I'll never understand people thinking Saban dumped us for Alabama. He did no such thing.


Yep. ^^^
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18537 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 10:36 am to
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When that failed, he took the best job available. He owed no loyalty to LSU at that time.
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I disagree with this.
so if a great job opens up, a coach shouldn't take it because he once coached at a division rival? What nonsense.

Hell, Spurrier did exactly what Saban did, and Florida fans don't blast him for it. Now yes, I realize So. Carolina isn't UF's rival, but they're in the same division.

I go to a Florida game in the Swamp every year with a UF buddy, and people down there universally love Spurrier and give him no grief about USCe.
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 10:37 am
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18191 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 10:38 am to
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of all the college jobs he could have taken, chose our division rival.


Hands down the best job available.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10330 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 10:46 am to
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Dude was offered a top tier job for a lot of money. It was a no brainer

I see that side of it. But the other part of me says, he made his post-Miami decision without any regard for the LSU people who he'd built a bond with for 5 years - so why do I owe him the benefit of the doubt?

Let's look at it another way - how would Bama fans act if the same thing happened to them? Or Florida with Meyer going to Georgia in the same manner? I think it's a human nature deal, not an exclusively LSU deal.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18191 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:04 am to
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Let's look at it another way - how would Bama fans act if the same thing happened to them? Or Florida with Meyer going to Georgia in the same manner? I think it's a human nature deal, not an exclusively LSU deal.


Probably pretty negatively. And you’re right—that is human nature. But it wouldn’t be his fault.

I don’t like that Saban went to Alabama anymore than you, but I never blamed him for it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
82696 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:11 am to
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so if a great job opens up, a coach shouldn't take it because he once coached at a division rival?
Depends on the circumstances of the departure. In Saban's case yes. In Miles' case no problem.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17250 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:16 am to
i still remember when saban left miami 9/10 posters on trant would have rather kept CLM

these are the same posters who told bama fans that saban would leave their program after a few years

12 years later and hes still going strong

i never believed that CLM could sustain what he did the first three years and would have easily dropped him for Saban
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 11:18 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
24386 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:22 am to
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i still remember when saban left miami 9/10 posters on trant would have rather kept CLM

these are the same posters who told bama fans that saban would leave their program after a few years

12 years later and hes still going strong

i never believed that CLM could sustain what he did the first three years and would have easily dropped him for Saban


I read Scott Rabalais' article in the Advocate today and that very scenario came to mind. If Les had mediocre years in 2005-2006, would we have at least talked to Saban before he chose Bama?
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“I hadn’t been (in Miami) a couple of months when I knew it was a mistake,” Saban said to me at the 2007 SEC Spring Meeting in Destin, Florida, mere months after taking the Alabama job. “But by then it was too late.” Les Miles had his old job, and the corner office in the LSU football complex that Saban told then Chancellor Mark Emmert the program needed but never got to occupy before he left.
Posted by ewilliams000
Castor Springs
Member since Feb 2012
1968 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:23 am to
Would have been great if he had come back and went to South Carolina. Even better if if he had stayed North like maybe Michigan.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
12022 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:26 pm to
It is interesting to speculate how different college football would be for many teams today had he not left LSU and would still be here.

Dabo would probably be coaching Alabama.

Les would either be at Michigan or still at Oklahoma State.

Urban and Jimbo might still be at Ohio State and Florida State.

Coach O would probably be at USC.
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12302 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:34 pm to
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I’ll take coach O any day. He’s one of us.

This. Who needs National Championships when you have a thick cajun accent?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
85501 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 12:34 pm to
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Urban and Jimbo might still be at Ohio State and Florida State.



Huh?
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