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For all the people that are complaining about the run game
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:21 pm
From Cody Worshams twitter:
How often is LSU getting the yards it needs on the ground?
LSU rushing +EPA% (percentage of rushing plays that added to expected points).
2016: 47%
2017: 48%
2018: 43%
2019: 50%
For context, this stat looks at running the ball like this: a 4 yard run on third and 3 is WAY more valuable than a 9 yard run on 3rd and 13.
Couldn't get 2015 to load in database at first, but just worked.
2015: 50.5%
Pretty good running back group that year.
How often is LSU getting the yards it needs on the ground?
LSU rushing +EPA% (percentage of rushing plays that added to expected points).
2016: 47%
2017: 48%
2018: 43%
2019: 50%
For context, this stat looks at running the ball like this: a 4 yard run on third and 3 is WAY more valuable than a 9 yard run on 3rd and 13.
Couldn't get 2015 to load in database at first, but just worked.
2015: 50.5%
Pretty good running back group that year.
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:24 pm to PP7 for heisman
If Burrow wasn't completing passes at an incredible rate then I would be concerned. This team is a passing team and that's just how they're going to move the ball.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:24 pm to PP7 for heisman
Advanced metrics LOVE the LSU running game
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:26 pm to PP7 for heisman
Thanks for this.
I, also, wonder about RB production as a whole. Meaning: I don't have a huge distinction between a RB being handed a ball or pitched a ball vs a short toss. In any case, the RB gets the ball and can do his thing.
If Emery "rushes" for 15 yds and gets 85 yds from screen passes - that is 100 yds of RB production to me.
I, also, wonder about RB production as a whole. Meaning: I don't have a huge distinction between a RB being handed a ball or pitched a ball vs a short toss. In any case, the RB gets the ball and can do his thing.
If Emery "rushes" for 15 yds and gets 85 yds from screen passes - that is 100 yds of RB production to me.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:27 pm to PP7 for heisman
People are still looking at our run game through the lenses of the I formation and les Miles old offense. I think we have to learn to control the ball more. Which in turn will help our defense. Our explosive plays have gone up so much this year. I still think we have to play complementary football.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:29 pm to PP7 for heisman
I heard Rohan talking about the offense on Sunday morning radio, and he said that the run game must come on if LSU is to run the table.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:30 pm to PP7 for heisman
Right now the run game is being used as a complement to pass game, that's been pretty clear. We run on 3rd/2, 2nd/2, 2nd and goal from 2,3,4...etc...
We have a lot of "short yardage" carries.
TDP is a good example of this against NWST, the stats look pedestrian, 7 carries, 29 yards 2 TD. But 6 of his 7 carries went for a first down or TD, so that's 6 very successful carries. His other carry:
1st/10 from NWST 40 - run for 5 yards to NWST 35, good carry
TDP needs the ball a lot more, so does Emery. CEH is solid for who he is, but we got guys who will ultimately make more plays and are more gamebreakers than he is.
We rushed the ball 33 times against NWST, (take away 1 sacks and 1 knee). 12 went for first downs, 6 went for a TD.
So 18 out of 33 carries went for a 1st down or TD. That's 55%.
But going back to Emery/TDP vs. CEH, CEH just wont really break one, where as those guys could. I think that's why ultimately the run game gets better as they carry the ball more. 2nd and 1's from the 50 gaining 2-3 yards for a first down will ultimately turn into some 50 yard TD runs.
We have a lot of "short yardage" carries.
TDP is a good example of this against NWST, the stats look pedestrian, 7 carries, 29 yards 2 TD. But 6 of his 7 carries went for a first down or TD, so that's 6 very successful carries. His other carry:
1st/10 from NWST 40 - run for 5 yards to NWST 35, good carry
TDP needs the ball a lot more, so does Emery. CEH is solid for who he is, but we got guys who will ultimately make more plays and are more gamebreakers than he is.
We rushed the ball 33 times against NWST, (take away 1 sacks and 1 knee). 12 went for first downs, 6 went for a TD.
So 18 out of 33 carries went for a 1st down or TD. That's 55%.
But going back to Emery/TDP vs. CEH, CEH just wont really break one, where as those guys could. I think that's why ultimately the run game gets better as they carry the ball more. 2nd and 1's from the 50 gaining 2-3 yards for a first down will ultimately turn into some 50 yard TD runs.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:35 pm to PP7 for heisman
Our run game is to complement the passing game. Short yardage plays, draws, read option etc..
We are not trying to be a run first program anymore.
Those that are upset about the run game are very very ignorant and are not worth the time of day when trying to explain football.
/thread
We are not trying to be a run first program anymore.
Those that are upset about the run game are very very ignorant and are not worth the time of day when trying to explain football.
/thread
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:36 pm to PP7 for heisman
The run game will only improve from here. People are seeing this new offense. Our pass threat is deadly. Should open up some run opportunities for us.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:41 pm to PP7 for heisman
This is a Will wade type stat. I love it.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 5:09 pm to PP7 for heisman
12.5 yards per pass ATTEMPT. That is strong!
(A little above the single season record of 11.6 - Kyler Murray)
(A little above the single season record of 11.6 - Kyler Murray)
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:46 pm to PP7 for heisman
quote:
2016: 47%
2017: 48%
2018: 43%
2019: 50%
But so far 2019 has included 2 cupcakes and a B12 defense.
We should have been able to blow some pretty big holes through GaSo and NWS!
I'm worried that we won't be ab;e to run at all against a tougher D... And you know that tougher D is coming.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:53 pm to PP7 for heisman
Everybody is eating. Our running backs are catching passes in space. I'll take it any way I can get it. Whatever the hell it takes to move the chains!
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:01 am to PP7 for heisman
I get the point and you’re correct, it’s how the run game yardage is beneficial to the offense, not total run yards.
However, what still worries me is when the passing game is stifled based on a good defensive scheme, what do we turn to?
One dimensional is never a good thing.
However, what still worries me is when the passing game is stifled based on a good defensive scheme, what do we turn to?
One dimensional is never a good thing.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:23 am to PP7 for heisman
Ed Ingram instantly makes our run game a lot better. A lot.
The only people who should be complaining are the opposing teams' DL who get pancaked.
The only people who should be complaining are the opposing teams' DL who get pancaked.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:27 am to PP7 for heisman
I hope Emery can pick up the playbook soon. That guy can take it to the house on any given play. Nothing against CEH. He’s a very solid player and Im happy to have the guy. We just need that kind of threat out of the backfield.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:19 pm to PP7 for heisman
ok, so where does a 4 yard run on 1st and 10 fall?
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