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Trump is destroying China’s economy
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:01 am
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:01 am
A year into the trade war with Washington, more than 50 global companies, including Apple and Nintendo, have announced or are considering plans to move production out of China, Nikkei research has found.
And not just foreign companies. Chinese manufacturers, as well as those from the U.S., Japan and Taiwan, are part of the drain, including makers of personal computers, smartphones and other electronics.
Concern over the situation is growing among political leaders. China's State Council decided in May to set up a group to lead employment measures and plans to bolster job training programs using surplus funds from state insurance schemes.
The trade dispute is beginning to show up in flows of goods and capital. In the first five months of the year, exports from China to the U.S. fell 12% on the year in value terms, while those from India, Vietnam and Taiwan logged double-digit gains. Exports aimed at bypassing U.S. tariffs by disguising the origin of products may also be increasing.
Many companies, alarmed by the prospect of a prolonged trade conflict, are hedging their bets. While looking for alternative production sites for U.S.-bound goods, many will keep factories operating in China for the domestic Chinese market. Thus, many manufacturers will be forced to set up dual supply chains: one for China and one for other markets, raising their costs and denting profits.
"The possibility of the world market dividing into China and non-China is growing," said Yuji Miura, a senior economist at the Japan Research Institute. "Decoupling" -- that is an unwinding of economic ties between the U.S. and China and a division of the world economy into hostile blocs -- is a real possibility.
Having a China and Non China world Market would probably be the equivalent of winning WW3 without firing a single bullet
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And not just foreign companies. Chinese manufacturers, as well as those from the U.S., Japan and Taiwan, are part of the drain, including makers of personal computers, smartphones and other electronics.
Concern over the situation is growing among political leaders. China's State Council decided in May to set up a group to lead employment measures and plans to bolster job training programs using surplus funds from state insurance schemes.
The trade dispute is beginning to show up in flows of goods and capital. In the first five months of the year, exports from China to the U.S. fell 12% on the year in value terms, while those from India, Vietnam and Taiwan logged double-digit gains. Exports aimed at bypassing U.S. tariffs by disguising the origin of products may also be increasing.
Many companies, alarmed by the prospect of a prolonged trade conflict, are hedging their bets. While looking for alternative production sites for U.S.-bound goods, many will keep factories operating in China for the domestic Chinese market. Thus, many manufacturers will be forced to set up dual supply chains: one for China and one for other markets, raising their costs and denting profits.
"The possibility of the world market dividing into China and non-China is growing," said Yuji Miura, a senior economist at the Japan Research Institute. "Decoupling" -- that is an unwinding of economic ties between the U.S. and China and a division of the world economy into hostile blocs -- is a real possibility.
Having a China and Non China world Market would probably be the equivalent of winning WW3 without firing a single bullet
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:17 am to Lsujacket66
The damage is done and China can't unring the bell, the longer it goes the worse it will be for them but they have already lost the dominant role they had as the main foriegn supplier to the west. Taiwan, Vietnam, Korea, Indonesia all have gained manufacturing as well as the US and frankly, US production is the biggest winner.
Trump has set us back on the dominant economic track and China's economic power will be a footnote in history
Trump has set us back on the dominant economic track and China's economic power will be a footnote in history
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:21 am to Lsujacket66
Remember June is when the 25% tariffs kicked in, the full effect of the tariffs will be felt in the next few months. Wisely they were enacted in short fashion before suppliers could load up.
But no worries chini says their economy is growing 6.2% and unemployment has not missed a lick. (Monty Python and flesh wounds come to mind).
But no worries chini says their economy is growing 6.2% and unemployment has not missed a lick. (Monty Python and flesh wounds come to mind).
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:21 am to Lsujacket66
He did what he said he would.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:22 am to Lsujacket66
IBChinaman and 90ChineseProof ain’t gonna like this
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:30 am to Lsujacket66
Mess with the bull, get the horns.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:36 am to Lsujacket66
I’m in construction and most of the product manufacturing is already moving out of China to other Asian countries and Mexico.
China also has a demographics problem coming as their birth policies have pushed them into a shrinking “working age” issue.
China also has a demographics problem coming as their birth policies have pushed them into a shrinking “working age” issue.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:00 am to Lsujacket66
China has a history of making poor decisions.
The US handed them the gold ring, and they grasped it! However it’s now time to grow and compete in the normal way without all the prior huge advantages.
But China thought that Trump would cave like all past American presidents. And it appears that they now think they will win with Trump’s defeat in 2020. In the next 16 months China will suffer massive harm, and Trump’s re-election will make the US completely dominant in 5he relationship with a guaranteed 4+ more years of Trump.
It’s not that America is better than China. It’s because America is China’s customer, and the customer is always right, and the customer can find a new supplier easier than the supplier can find a new customer.
If China remains intransigent its boom will relocate elsewhere, including America.
The US handed them the gold ring, and they grasped it! However it’s now time to grow and compete in the normal way without all the prior huge advantages.
But China thought that Trump would cave like all past American presidents. And it appears that they now think they will win with Trump’s defeat in 2020. In the next 16 months China will suffer massive harm, and Trump’s re-election will make the US completely dominant in 5he relationship with a guaranteed 4+ more years of Trump.
It’s not that America is better than China. It’s because America is China’s customer, and the customer is always right, and the customer can find a new supplier easier than the supplier can find a new customer.
If China remains intransigent its boom will relocate elsewhere, including America.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:17 am to Lsujacket66
But IBFreeman and his talking points from the Chamber of Cucks swore that the opposite will happen.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:28 am to Lsujacket66
What isn’t disclosed are the actual numbers that reflect the true debt which some analyst say could be as high as $6T.
Total debt relative to national output surged to 253 percent in mid-2018, from only 140 percent a decade earlier, according to the Bank for International Settlements. No emerging economy since the 1990s has had such an outsize debt expansion and survived a disaster (Bank for Int’l Settlements).
Total debt relative to national output surged to 253 percent in mid-2018, from only 140 percent a decade earlier, according to the Bank for International Settlements. No emerging economy since the 1990s has had such an outsize debt expansion and survived a disaster (Bank for Int’l Settlements).
Posted on 7/28/19 at 2:10 pm to Lsujacket66
and he is potentially f’ing with our economy too regarding the deficit. he does not care as long as he is making $$$$$. trump cares about trump——not you!!!
Posted on 7/28/19 at 2:16 pm to Lsujacket66
You have to wonder how long Xi will let the bleeding continue.
His arrogance and pride must know no bounds if he's too Niave to realize the importance of the US buying demand and role in their previous financial success.
His arrogance and pride must know no bounds if he's too Niave to realize the importance of the US buying demand and role in their previous financial success.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 2:59 pm to Lsujacket66
The only thing saving China at this point would be a Biden Presidency. He would bend right over for them for sure
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:01 pm to Lsujacket66
The Dems are salivating over the dollars coming their way from Cook, if the USA exempts Apple.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:22 pm to Lsujacket66
The financial world is not political. The lefties I know are all in on combating the Xi regime. They are the most dangerous people in power since Hitler. And they are gunning for us. I fully support alienating communism despite the "neo con" label that comes with it.
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