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re: Supposedly Trump approval is plummeting in Louisiana

Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13594 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:40 pm to
I for some reason get calls on my cell phone from pollsters and I lie my arse off. One asked a couple of days if I had to vote today in the democratic primary who would I pick - told em Joe Biden just to piss off the Bernie crowd. Asked how enthusiastic I was about Shotgun Joe and I gave a loud EEEEYAAAWWWWWW like Howard Dean.

Register as an independent or libertarian and every pollster in this country will call you.

The polls are bullshite.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10189 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:42 pm to
This is so bullshite
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112932 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:43 pm to
Who did you vote for in 2016?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:43 pm to
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Trump approval/disapproval supposedly at 47/46. Anyone living there have any insight? Can’t believe this is anywhere near correct.

What was the margin of error for that poll?
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
4756 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
58063 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:45 pm to
Louisiana is a Trump stronghold.

Why would his approval plummet anyway? Makes no sense whatsoever
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:45 pm to
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yes just like Georgia outside of that shitshow town called Atlanta .


The city that produces the lionshare of your wealth is that bad, huh?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30546 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:45 pm to
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Bossier Parish

Caddo Parish, rather. Id presume such anyway.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:47 pm to
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After the last election, I'll never believe polls again in my life.

You don't believe in the results of the 2016 election?

You're not alone.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112932 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:47 pm to
Muh Russians!
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:52 pm to
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There are a handful of parishes, outside of Orleans, that go blue.

That's not how it works, there is no electoral college within the states.

43% of registered voters in Louisiana are Democrats, not all of them are in New Orleans, or even in two handfuls of parishes. They are scattered all across the state.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
43155 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:56 pm to
I studied political science, I studied polling. I believed in polling, and I still do believe it is a great science when it is pure and not infested with personal agendas. The problem is, though, that polling is infested with agendas. Those who are polled are picked with bias. Now I believe polling is being used for to suppress turnout of those who are or might be a Trump voter.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:59 pm to
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if we just look at the one "poll" that counted (Election day, 2016) and compare that to ALL the other "polls", there is a certain truth to this

The election day polling results gave more votes to Clinton than Trump. It's the analysis of the polling, ie the Electoral College, that was unpredictable. But still, all the state by state results were within the margins of error for most of the polls. They weren't really that wrong, nationally.

I personally find it hysterical that, even with Clinton getting more votes than Trump, the cons on the board freak out every time polling is mentioned, like there was some big conspiracy amongst the pollsters to make Clinton look like she would get more votes than Trump.

I mean, how can one argue that the 2016 polling was WAY off when Clinton actually got more votes than the president?
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19282 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:59 pm to
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Those who are polled are picked with bias. Now I believe polling is being used for to suppress turnout of those who are or might be a Trump voter.


To suppress voter turnout against him they should say he is ahead of everyone. With what they are doing, it ensures people will get out and vote for him again.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17116 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:00 pm to
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Louisiana outside shithole ghetto NOLA is Trump Country


You meant to say MAGA country, right?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:00 pm to
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Muh Russians!

I'm not the one disputing the 2016 polling results, I think they were correct.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30546 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:04 pm to
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I'm not the one disputing the 2016 polling results, I think they were correct.

Not when the resulting analysis concluded that Clinton had anywhere from 70% to 90% likelihood of winning. They were predicting electoral vote outcomes in connection therewith and on that they were curiously waay off.
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6205 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:06 pm to
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Maybe they should try polling in places other than Orleans, EBR, and Bossier Parish.


Bossier Parish is solidly red.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:10 pm to
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You meant to say MAGA country, right?


I mean, it's all based on Trump loyalty , correct? It's a movement based on Populism.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:14 pm to
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they were curiously waay off.

Not really. If I remember correctly, they were within the margins of error for each state. It's just that the results were that close in key states.

Trump won Michigan by 0.23%, Wisconsin by 0.77%, Pennsylvania by 0.72%, and Florida by 1.2% - all within the margins of error for each state.

ETA:

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Not when the resulting analysis concluded that Clinton had anywhere from 70% to 90% likelihood of winning.

People read that like it says they predicted Clinton to receive 70-90% of the actual vote. When someone says there's a 90% chance of something, that means there's a 10% chance of not-something. Sometimes the 10% pays off.

They key is, look at the poll numbers themselves (keeping in mind margins of error and confidence levels), don't listen to the meatheads in the media analyzing the poll numbers.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 2:19 pm
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