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SCOTUS Rules 7-2 The Bladensburg Memorial Cross Does Not Violate Establishment Clause
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:46 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:46 am
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The Blandensburg Cross, aka The Peace Cross, is a war memorial, located in the three-way junction of Bladensburg Road, Baltimore Avenue, and Annapolis Road in Bladensburg, Maryland.
The American Humanist Association had sued the American Legion to have the cross removed, arguing the memorial represented a Christian symbol on public land and violated the establishment clause.
Lower courts had agreed with the plaintiff, against the American Legion, and the memorial was to be removed. The American Legion appealed the ruling all the way to the Supreme Court.
Today the Supreme Court reversed the lower court rulings (full pdf below). In a 7-2 decision authored by Justice Alito, the court acknowledged the Bladensburg Cross -as a memorial- represents more than religion and does not violate the establishment clause.
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“The cross is undoubtedly a Christian symbol, but that fact should not blind us to everything else that the Bladensburg Cross has come to represent. For some, that monument is a symbolic resting place for ancestors who never returned home. For others, it is a place for the community to gather and honor all veterans and their sacrifices for our Nation. For others still, it is a historical landmark. For many of these people, destroying or defacing the Cross that has stood undisturbed for nearly a century would not be neutral and would not further the ideals of respect and tolerance embodied in the First Amendment.”
~ Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.
LINK
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:48 am to GumboPot
I'm someone that is pretty fiercely in favor of separation of church and state, but this is a total "no duh" position to me. Great decision.
The opposition to this is batshit.
The opposition to this is batshit.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:49 am to GumboPot
Who were the 2 communist dissenters?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:53 am to TBPland
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Who were the 2 communist dissenters?
Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:54 am to TBPland
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Who were the 2 communist dissenters?
Who else? The zombie and the wise latina.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:59 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Rex is gonna be pissed.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:10 pm to GumboPot
They ruled on it again? Twice in one day?
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:17 pm to Parmen
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They ruled on it again? Twice in one day?
Three times I believe...
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:17 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Rex is gonna be pissed.
Poor Maggie.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:17 pm to GumboPot
Not going to lie - when I got to the part of the syllabus, "The American Legion defended the Cross" - it was awfully dusty in here.
They also quoted from "In Flanders Fields", so I'll post the entire poem.
They also quoted from "In Flanders Fields", so I'll post the entire poem.
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In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:30 pm to BuckyCheese
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Three times I believe...
Sorry about that.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:32 pm to Ace Midnight
It’s welcome to see references like that.
Seems rare these days.
Seems rare these days.
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For 14 hours yesterday I was at work—teaching Christ to lift his cross by numbers, and how to adjust his crown; and not to imagine he thirst till after the last halt; I attended his Supper to see that there were no complaints; and inspected his feet that they should be worthy of the nails. I see to it that he is dumb and stands at attention before his accusers. With a piece of silver I buy him every day, and with maps I make him familiar with the topography of Golgotha.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:38 pm to GumboPot
Frankly, there is a good chance that 2 HRC nominees and this could be 5-4(either way).
Thank God for that magnificent orange bastard, Donald John Trump.
Thank God for that magnificent orange bastard, Donald John Trump.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:41 pm to GumboPot
There is still hope for our country.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:06 pm to GumboPot
That bitch Ginsberg is still alive?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:08 pm to Ace Midnight
Ever see the last episode of Blackadder? It ends with a scene of poppy fields in Belgium...
last scene of Blackadder WW1
last scene of Blackadder WW1
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They also quoted from "In Flanders Fields", so I'll post the entire poem.
quote:
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 2:15 pm
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