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God dictates gender, which does not exist on a spectrum and cannot be changed

Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:25 pm
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One day after Pentecost Sunday — the Christian holiday that commemorates the early church receiving the Holy Spirit — the Catholic Church issued an official declaration rejecting postmodern gender concepts and affirming the biblical vision for complementary genders.

The Vatican's department for Catholic education released a document titled "Male and Female He Created Them" — a reference to the biblical creation narrative — that reaffirms the traditional view that an individual's gender is established by God and cannot be altered.

The document claims there is an "educational crisis" stemming from culture-based education surrounding gender and sexuality.

It denounces "calls for public recognition of the right to choose one's gender, and of a plurality of new types of unions, in direct contradiction of the model of marriage as being between one man and one woman, which is portrayed as a vestige of patriarchal societies."

"The disorientation regarding anthropology which is a widespread feature of our cultural landscape has undoubtedly helped to destabilise the family as an institution, bringing with it a tendency to cancel out the differences between men and women, presenting them instead as merely the product of historical and cultural conditioning," the document explains.

Addressing the concept of gender fluidity — or the idea gender exists on a spectrum — the document says the liberal idea is "founded on nothing more than a confused concept of freedom in the realm of feelings and wants, or momentary desires provoked by emotional impulses and the will of the individual, as opposed to anything based on the truths of existence."

The document was created in February, but released Monday during the heart of "Pride Month."

Pope Francis did not sign the document. Instead, Cardinal Giuseppe Versaldi, the head of the Congregation for Catholic Education, signed it, along with secretary Archbishop Angelo Vincenzo Zani.

Not only does the document reflect traditional biblical teaching, but it also mirrors the view of Pope Francis, who in 2015 so strongly denounced gender theory and its catastrophic impact on culture that he compared it to nuclear arms.

"Let's think of the nuclear arms, of the possibility to annihilate in a few instants a very high number of human beings," Francis said. "Let's think also of genetic manipulation, of the manipulation of life, or of the gender theory, that does not recognize the order of creation."

"With this attitude, man commits a new sin, that against God the Creator," he added. "The true custody of creation does not have anything to do with the ideologies that consider man like an accident, like a problem to eliminate."
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:29 pm to
Well, I guess no more movies will be filmed in the Vaticana!
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:34 pm to
There really are genetic anomalies, but that is an EXTREMELY rare situation and I do feel bad for those individuals.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80399 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:42 pm to
Surprised this pope didn’t tuck his dick back behind his legs to show solidarity with the trannies
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 4:45 pm to
Science dictates chromosomes not god.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7744 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 4:49 pm to
I don’t care if you’re a man that wants to be a woman, a woman that wants to be a man, or a cat that wants to be a dog. As long as the government isn’t covering your surgeries or providing you with special protections, I have no problem with it at all.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 4:50 pm to
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God dictates gender, which does not exist on a spectrum and cannot be changed


Come on, now. This manner of thought is so....so....so....2015. By now, I think most of us have evolved.


DISCLAIMER: I don't claim to be speaking for all 47 genders, though.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 4:59 pm to
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"Male and Female He Created Them" — a reference to the biblical creation narrative — that reaffirms the traditional view that an individual's gender is established by God and cannot be altered.

"Male and female" refers to sex, not gender. That cannot be altered. But sex does naturally occur on a spectrum (see: hermaphrodite, eg).

"Masculine and feminine" refers to gender and is generally subjective, often culturally dependent, and can be altered.

I find it entertaining when new couples have "gender reveal parties" for their fetuses. There is no way to tell the gender of a fetus, but you can tell the sex of one.

I guess some people are turned off by the idea of a "sex reveal party". Go figure.
Posted by westide
Bamala
Member since Sep 2014
2882 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 5:14 pm to
I have searched the Bible and I can't find where it says God created trannies.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11494 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 5:24 pm to
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There is no way to tell the gender of a fetus, but you can tell the sex of one.


mental illness and obliviousness wrapped up all in one folks
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 6:57 pm to
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There really are genetic anomalies, but that is an EXTREMELY rare situation and I do feel bad for those individuals.


Chromosomal disorders aren't that rare. I suspect a few regulars on the pb are afflicted.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:13 pm to
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suspect a few regulars on the pb are afflicted.


This an admission?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:21 pm to
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Science dictates chromosomes not god.


False

Science investigated chromosomes and cataloged them.

God created them.

For you athiests
At the very least nature created them.

Science had zero to do with them being as they are.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:24 pm to
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God created them.





The Bible says nothing of chromosomes, DNA, or anything for that matter.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:40 pm to
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The Bible says nothing of chromosomes, DNA, or anything for that matter.
It doesn’t have to. The Bible was meant to reveal the truth about God’s relationship with mankind, not everything about everything within the creation.

Also science is a methodology (a tool) used by humans to learn about God’s created world. “Science” isn’t a person.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22301 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:57 pm to
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"Male and female" refers to sex, not gender. That cannot be altered. But sex does naturally occur on a spectrum (see: hermaphrodite, eg). "Masculine and feminine" refers to gender and is generally subjective, often culturally dependent, and can be altered. I find it entertaining when new couples have "gender reveal parties" for their fetuses. There is no way to tell the gender of a fetus, but you can tell the sex of one. I guess some people are turned off by the idea of a "sex reveal party". Go figure.


All of this is complete nonsense. Sociological gobbledygook designed to obfuscate what people have known to be true for eons. There are men and there are women. Period, end of story.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:59 pm to
I'm wired 50% like a bitch. It causes some problems; however, the benefits far outweigh those problems. I have a dick. In a logical world, that makes me a dude, even if...

Holy shite...my brain just turned my redeck arse not so anti "pick your gender."

When my brain was running through this "logical world," I had a tranny (is that pc?) filling out some application that asked for gender. Our tranny was very logical and kept it straight with the guy.

"Look, bro. I was born a dude, but I'm wired like a bitch, so, for my life, I'm choosing to live life as a bitch. Which one of these boxes do you want me to check."

Then, my brain was like, that's a pain in the arse...just check bitch if you live life as a bitch...all that other bullshite is a waste of time...plus, ain't no reason for people to be all up in yo shite.

Then, all occurring within nanoseconds while I typed "logical world," I realized that my mother fricking drunk arse was coming awfully close to the "choose your gender" side.

Maybe I'm ok with...

Awwww, frick that. I'm making another drink.

It is going to be fun watching 6'4" black dudes destroy women's sports though. I can't wait for that sjw collision.

Eta: thought it was the ot
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 8:01 pm
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31541 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:02 pm to
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Science dictates chromosomes not god.


Well, no. Science is the method and discipline by which man identified and continues to research chromosomes and other genetic phenomena.

"Science" does not dictate.

Ohhhh ISWYDT, this is a how my dictate joke.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 8:09 pm
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:24 pm to
And God sends most tornadoes and hurricanes to states that have voted for Trump.

Come on.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 11:32 pm to
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the Catholic Church issued an official declaration rejecting postmodern gender concepts and affirming the biblical vision for complementary genders
so not only did they cover gender reassignment, they covered sexual orientation. that's pretty huge. i can't imagine there won't be significant fallout from that

and where is this coming from? popey guy has been trending WAY left over the last 2 or 3 decades.
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