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Posted on 6/3/19 at 11:23 am to Hullabaloo
Seems like posturing. Doubt anything has happened with the combine to change anyone’s mind on players they liked before. This is just opening up trade talks for Memphis to explore.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 11:23 am to dj30
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When did this happen?
I don't think Lonzo ever said anything, but that's when all the Lonzo to Phoenix chatter started because Lavar came out and pretty much said we don't want NOLA but we like the situation in Phoenix. This was also before the FO overhaul for the Pels so maybe that would change Lavar's stance.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 11:28 am to TigerinATL
Lavar basically shite on the possibility of Lavar playing anywhere which wasn’t California or Phoenix.
The choicest line of the stupidity was claiming he didn’t want him in New Orleans walking through the snow to practice.
Lonzo himself didn’t outright balk at New Orleans but started making a lot of noise that seemed to be done with the idea of making himself untradeable, period.
The choicest line of the stupidity was claiming he didn’t want him in New Orleans walking through the snow to practice.
Lonzo himself didn’t outright balk at New Orleans but started making a lot of noise that seemed to be done with the idea of making himself untradeable, period.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 11:32 am to teke184
Morant is a great talent, but he is a black hole on defense. He doesn't even try there and that could be an issue. While having a player like Zion can help with defensive flaws, it won't cover up a player that barely tries.
I think like others have said that Memphis is probably just testing the market to see what teams might be willing to part with for #2.
I think Morant makes great highlights, but is he a great player remains to be seen. He's also a turnover machine and averaged over 5 per game.
I think like others have said that Memphis is probably just testing the market to see what teams might be willing to part with for #2.
I think Morant makes great highlights, but is he a great player remains to be seen. He's also a turnover machine and averaged over 5 per game.
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 11:35 am
Posted on 6/3/19 at 11:34 am to Geauxgurt
Which is where interviews and workouts come into play.
I don’t want to see him trying to score in a practice, I would like to see how he can defend, if he can take directions, and if he can learn quickly.
I don’t want to see him trying to score in a practice, I would like to see how he can defend, if he can take directions, and if he can learn quickly.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 11:40 am to TigerinATL
Just checking, I remember the Lavar interview, but didnt hear anything from Lonzo.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 12:13 pm to TigerinATL
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There are few sure things in any draft. After I reported a couple of weeks ago from the combine that the Memphis Grizzlies informed interested parties that they intend to select Murray State's Ja Morant at No. 2, Memphis has been sending out some mixed messages. The Grizzlies' ownership group is still telling people around the league that the team is locked in on Morant, but the front office has requested to have Barrett in for a private workout -- something he has declined but might revisit over the next three weeks, sources told ESPN.
-Givony
There's the quote they are citing from that article.
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/3/19 at 12:17 pm to Epic Cajun
That really does seem like much ado about nothing. Front Offices do due dilligence interviews and workouts all the time. It's a shame, because I love the idea of Ja/Jrue/Zion. All 3 can handle and run the offense and all 3 can be deadly off ball cutting to the basket. Add 2 shooters with gravity to the mix and you'd have a pretty potent offense.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 12:19 pm to dj30
It’s pretty freaking obvious why Lonzo “doesn’t want to come here” and it has nothing to do with the Pelicans or Lonzo’s best chance at maximizing his talent.
So PHX is the destination. Wonder why that could be? Maybe it’s because it’s less than 500 miles from LA and the closest destination that would trade for him?
LAC has SGA/Shamet/Beverly
GSW has Curry
SAC has Fox
Who’s that leave? Lavar is such a piece of shite, he wants to keep his son as close to him as possible at the expense of his future...again
I’d almost want to gamble on Lonzo and see if success and Jrue can separate him from Lavar’s influence.
There are three people that I think people are really sleeping on in trade scenarios.
One is Lonzo
Two is Hunter from Virginia. I’ve seen it mentioned numerous times that Virginia’s grind it out game stifled his offensive ability, and here is way more there than we’ve seen.
Three is Mitchell Robinson. People talk about Harrell and Jarrett Allen. Robinson is on a better deal than both by a mile, had a historic rookie season on a terrible team, and could be the perfect C next to Zion.
I prefer both the Lakers and Knicks packages over both the Nets and the Clippers, assuming we get a similar haul that was offered back in Feb from the Lakers.
If Morant is able to be had at three, the Knicks instantly vault to the top of my list of trade candidates.
I still like Boston just as much if not more than all of them, but it’s seeming more and more they’re gonna day screw it.
So PHX is the destination. Wonder why that could be? Maybe it’s because it’s less than 500 miles from LA and the closest destination that would trade for him?
LAC has SGA/Shamet/Beverly
GSW has Curry
SAC has Fox
Who’s that leave? Lavar is such a piece of shite, he wants to keep his son as close to him as possible at the expense of his future...again
I’d almost want to gamble on Lonzo and see if success and Jrue can separate him from Lavar’s influence.
There are three people that I think people are really sleeping on in trade scenarios.
One is Lonzo
Two is Hunter from Virginia. I’ve seen it mentioned numerous times that Virginia’s grind it out game stifled his offensive ability, and here is way more there than we’ve seen.
Three is Mitchell Robinson. People talk about Harrell and Jarrett Allen. Robinson is on a better deal than both by a mile, had a historic rookie season on a terrible team, and could be the perfect C next to Zion.
I prefer both the Lakers and Knicks packages over both the Nets and the Clippers, assuming we get a similar haul that was offered back in Feb from the Lakers.
If Morant is able to be had at three, the Knicks instantly vault to the top of my list of trade candidates.
I still like Boston just as much if not more than all of them, but it’s seeming more and more they’re gonna day screw it.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 12:31 pm to TigerinATL
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That really does seem like much ado about nothing. Front Offices do due dilligence interviews and workouts all the time.
I agree, I mean the Pels interviewed Morant and no one thinks they are drafting him over Zion. Did the Pels ever interview Barrett? Also in the article Givony mentions that he'd draft Barrett over Morant, and Schmitz disagrees.
Here's another part of the article where Schmitz talks about the possibility of adding Barrett to the Pels with a Knicks/AD trade:
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Schmitz: If the Knicks were to flip Barrett and young players/assets to the Pelicans for Anthony Davis, Barrett would reunite with Williamson (the presumed No. 1 pick) and immediately become a future building block for New Orleans. A young core of Barrett, Zion, Kevin Knox and Mitchell Robinson would be strong so long as the Pelicans could use other assets from a Davis trade to add shooting to help Barrett avoid the same problem he faced at Duke. Although on a different timeline than that group at almost 29 years old, Jrue Holiday is an intriguing fit alongside Barrett, as he's capable of operating as a lead guard for stretches but might actually be at his best sliding off the ball, allowing Barrett to shoulder some of the shot-creation duties. He's one of the league's premier perimeter defenders, as well, an area in which Barrett has room to grow. That would put Knox in a much more realistic role as an off-ball threat. Robinson and Williamson would make for a dominant defensive front-court and an interesting 4/5 pick-and-roll combo, although I do wonder if Barrett would have enough spacing offensively next to that pairing. With Zion being able to slide up to the 5 for stretches, that could certainly open things up.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 12:33 pm to ShamelessPel
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It’s pretty freaking obvious why Lonzo “doesn’t want to come here” and it has nothing to do with the Pelicans or Lonzo’s best chance at maximizing his talent.
It also could be because they have young talent and he's a good fit next to Booker? I really don't know, I'm just playing devil's advocate.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 12:36 pm to Hullabaloo
Two things...
1. It is called due diligence. Teams are supposed to investigate all of their draft/trade options so that they can make the most informed decisions possible.
2. Their options potentially increase if other teams aren't sure who they are drafting. Let's say that there is a team that is absolute love with Barrett or Garland, and willing to give up the farm to trade up. You never even get that phone call if teams know you are taking Morant.
Just saw something similar to this in the NFL draft. Kingsbury essentially announced that they were going to take Murray early on. Once the Cards realized that they had foolishly taken a blowtorch to Josh Rosen's trade value in the process, they backpedalled off of their love of Murray to try to create some ambiguity.
1. It is called due diligence. Teams are supposed to investigate all of their draft/trade options so that they can make the most informed decisions possible.
2. Their options potentially increase if other teams aren't sure who they are drafting. Let's say that there is a team that is absolute love with Barrett or Garland, and willing to give up the farm to trade up. You never even get that phone call if teams know you are taking Morant.
Just saw something similar to this in the NFL draft. Kingsbury essentially announced that they were going to take Murray early on. Once the Cards realized that they had foolishly taken a blowtorch to Josh Rosen's trade value in the process, they backpedalled off of their love of Murray to try to create some ambiguity.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 1:17 pm to Vegas Buffet
If that's the case when will we hear about the Pelicans looking for options on Zion and the first pick
Posted on 6/3/19 at 1:25 pm to BayouRat15
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If that's the case when will we hear about the Pelicans looking for options on Zion and the first pick
Zion is much more of a lock at 1 than Murray was. Every team would draft Zion number 1 in this draft. I don't think that was the case with Arizona and Murray. That being said, the Pels did interview Morant.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 1:26 pm to Epic Cajun
My understanding is that the Pels did do due diligence on Barrett in addition to Ja. BUT. Everyone agreed the reason they were doing that diligence was that the AD trade meant that the Pels were in position to possibly draft another high pick, as the Knicks and Lakers are potential trade partners.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 1:44 pm to Geauxgurt
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. He's also a turnover machine and averaged over 5 per game.
He also averaged 10 assists a game, and 24 points a game, which is not something you see done in college.
Lillard averaged 3.5 assists in his 4 years, never having over 4 in a single season, and only averaged over 20 points in his senior year.
McCollum was near the same, with slightly less assists and slightly more points in his 4 years than Lillard.
I use those two b/c they played at similar small schools and were combo guards coming into the draft.
That being said, i completely agree with this:
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I think Morant makes great highlights, but is he a great player remains to be seen.
I put no stock into this report, or the multitude of others similar to this we will see over the next 2-3 weeks.
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:38 pm to Hullabaloo
This is leaked by either:
1) The Knicks who want to gin up the value of the #3 pick before the draft; or
2) The Grizzlies who want to see just how many assets the Knicks are willing to part with in a three-way or to acquire the #2 to deal it to the Pelicans.
The first scenario is more likely.
1) The Knicks who want to gin up the value of the #3 pick before the draft; or
2) The Grizzlies who want to see just how many assets the Knicks are willing to part with in a three-way or to acquire the #2 to deal it to the Pelicans.
The first scenario is more likely.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:43 pm to Hullabaloo
I don't love Morant, am I the only one?
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:48 pm to nirvana
All I do is imagine who these stories benefit the most to figure why we’re hearing what we’re hearing. Like was just said, there’s reason to buy Memphis gauging the trade market
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