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Trump’s plan for student loans is solid
Posted on 5/12/19 at 7:22 am
Posted on 5/12/19 at 7:22 am
Doubt this gets taken up before 2020 simply because Dems won’t want Trump to own this issue, but this would fix many of the underlying problems with high tuition and not being able to pay back loans
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 7:27 am to Lsujacket66
This and the weed act
Man is a genius cause the beta Millennials will not know what to do
Man is a genius cause the beta Millennials will not know what to do
Posted on 5/12/19 at 7:41 am to Lsujacket66
Hope they crack down on corrupt book industry. Everybody just accepts that it’s ok to pay hundreds of dollars for a fricking used book.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 7:50 am to Lsujacket66
Why does the government have to do anything?
Nobody is forced to take out loans and go to college.
Nobody is forced to take out loans and go to college.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 7:59 am to Lsujacket66
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The Proposals
“Reorient the Accreditation Process to Focus on Student Outcomes” – Accreditation is supposed to give the public confidence that colleges meets the highest education standards, and is required for a school to qualify for federal aid. However, in 2016 the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools continued to accredit Corinthian Colleges even after shady loan practices had been uncovered and right up until their bankruptcy, calling the entire system into question. The White House is looking to make accreditation more meaningful.
“Increase Innovation in the Education Marketplace” – The language for this proposal is not clear, but it sounds like the White House wants to encourage schools to work more closely with the private sector to provide job-specific education.
“Better Align Education to the Needs of Today’s Workforce” – The White House is proposing to improve access to apprenticeship programs and on-the-job training models, including wider access to Pell Grants for students looking at credential, certification, and licensing programs. It would also widen Federal Work Study programs to include more practical off-campus jobs.
“Increase Institutional Accountability” – Schools accepting federal funds would have to share in the burden of unpaid student debt. How it would work is unclear, but the goal is clearly to improve job placement and push students towards careers with higher probability for loan repayment.
“Accelerate Program Completion” – Graduating earlier means lower overall costs, but according to the National Center for Education Statistics only 60% of students complete a bachelor’s degree with six years of attending. The White House is proposing additional adoption of “prior learning assessments,” which take into account prior work, military, and educational experience students may have gained before college and applying academic credit. This way someone with four years of military service could potentially graduate from college earlier, testing out of some required academic credits.
“Support Historically Black Colleges and Universities” (HBCU’s) – The White House proposes that “Congress should make permanent the President’s Board of Advisors on HBCU’s and the Interagency Working Group responsible for improving the capacity of HBCU’s to continually improve the identity, visibility, distinctive capacity, and overall competitiveness of HBCUs.”
“Encourage Responsible Borrowing” – The White house is proposing straight caps on Parent and Grad PLUS loans, limiting the amount that can be borrowed while simultaneously providing additional guidance and required counseling to borrowers.
“Simplify Student Aid” – This would consolidate the five income-driven repayment plans into one, capped at 12.5% of discretionary income, extend student loan forgiveness, and allow the Dept. of Treasury to automatically provide tax data to the Dept. of Education.
“Support Returning Citizens” – The White House is asking Congress to provide financial aid specific to prisoners eligible for release to improve employment rates.
“Give Prospective Students More Meaningful and Useful Information about Schools and Programs” – Currently the data available to students through the Department of Education is at the institution level, such as tuition costs and graduation dates. The White House is looking for more granular data so students can better compare programs across schools.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 8:09 am to Lsujacket66
Read it. Don't like it. The two essential measures to reforming student lending:
(1) Get the government out of it.
(2) Allow student loans to be discharged in bankruptcy forcing lenders to vet the school, course of study, and academic qualifications of the borrower.
Both are missing. Things like pandering to historically black colleges is nothing but PC BS.
(1) Get the government out of it.
(2) Allow student loans to be discharged in bankruptcy forcing lenders to vet the school, course of study, and academic qualifications of the borrower.
Both are missing. Things like pandering to historically black colleges is nothing but PC BS.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 8:11 am
Posted on 5/12/19 at 8:14 am to Lsujacket66
Right. Accountability is key. Paying 4-5yrs of $55K/yr tuition to get a teaching degree is obviously dumb. The government supporting such behavior is just as dumb. So I like some of the proposals.
HOWEVER:
This coming year, the federal undergraduate student loan interest rate is 4.53%. Federal rates for graduate student loans are 6.08% and parent loans are 7.08%
Meanwhile, the Fed will lend money to banks at a rate in the 2.25% - 2.5% range, the highest rates they've been charged in a decade.
Now I understand all about default risk. But given the fact that to address default risk, the Government could run loan repayments thru the IRS, with commensurate late payment fees, levies, and other penalties to minimize nonrepayment risk, why should a family making regular-on-time payments be assessed 300% the rate banks are for federal money?
HOWEVER:
This coming year, the federal undergraduate student loan interest rate is 4.53%. Federal rates for graduate student loans are 6.08% and parent loans are 7.08%
Meanwhile, the Fed will lend money to banks at a rate in the 2.25% - 2.5% range, the highest rates they've been charged in a decade.
Now I understand all about default risk. But given the fact that to address default risk, the Government could run loan repayments thru the IRS, with commensurate late payment fees, levies, and other penalties to minimize nonrepayment risk, why should a family making regular-on-time payments be assessed 300% the rate banks are for federal money?
Posted on 5/12/19 at 8:20 am to Lsujacket66
I like that a lot. This is going to cause real cognitive dissonance for people who hate Trump as most of them probably support most of these proposals. This is the type of situation where good legislation should get done. You have a President who is unpopular with a large group of voters and an election coming up. He should want to do bipartisan legislation to shore up his support. I’m afraid things are so polarized though that groups will cut off their nose to spite their face.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 8:28 am to Lsujacket66
I like the idea with getting colleges to have skin in the game for unpaid debt. Basically tie in the responsibility for the loans with the ability for the graduate to find a good job where the debt meets a threshold to income.
For example: if a college throws a bunch of bullshite electives and lock step scheduling into the curriculum extending the students stay causing them to take on more debt only to graduate and get a job where the debt/income ratio is high, the college would be on the hook for a portion of that debt.
Fees, books, housing, and all the insane other costs that continue to get thrown in by schools that have zero incentive to control them as they know the money is guaranteed. It’s an interesting plan. Obviously the student/graduate would have to meet certain metrics as well. But it’s a bold move to get higher education to let go of the golden goose.
For example: if a college throws a bunch of bullshite electives and lock step scheduling into the curriculum extending the students stay causing them to take on more debt only to graduate and get a job where the debt/income ratio is high, the college would be on the hook for a portion of that debt.
Fees, books, housing, and all the insane other costs that continue to get thrown in by schools that have zero incentive to control them as they know the money is guaranteed. It’s an interesting plan. Obviously the student/graduate would have to meet certain metrics as well. But it’s a bold move to get higher education to let go of the golden goose.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 8:38 am to Lsujacket66
Here's my proposal:
1. Go to a college that's less expensive.
2. Major in something that has a good track record for paying salaries high enough to justify the cost of getting a degree in it.
3. ????????
4. Profit.
Anyone spending $100k for a Bachelor's in something as widely available as General Business or something utterly useless like Gender Studies needs to be held to paying that money back as a lesson in what poor financial decisions look like.
1. Go to a college that's less expensive.
2. Major in something that has a good track record for paying salaries high enough to justify the cost of getting a degree in it.
3. ????????
4. Profit.
Anyone spending $100k for a Bachelor's in something as widely available as General Business or something utterly useless like Gender Studies needs to be held to paying that money back as a lesson in what poor financial decisions look like.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 9:43 am to Lsujacket66
When the government stops the "free money" for college then tuition will fall. When institutions have an endless amount of money guaranteed by the government they will take and continue to raise cost.
Cut the BS student loan process and sit back and watch the cost of college fall.
Cut the BS student loan process and sit back and watch the cost of college fall.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 9:48 am to Lsujacket66
Loan forgiveness after 180 months for all students instead of just public servants.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 4:39 pm to Lsujacket66
Don't clip in any.
Keep it a secret.
Keep it a secret.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 8:05 pm to Lsujacket66
I don't see any "plan" in the link. It looks to me like a bunch of talking points but nothing specific.
Eventually the government will all but write these loans off unfortunately.
The education bureaucracy is bloated because of this easy access to money.
We need to end such easy access and frankly we should convert the universities into private institutions and get the government out of the university management business. We can use the money we have been spending on them to fund vouchers for higher ed. This will create competition for students and hopefully lower cost as the profit motives of private institutions will squeeze cost.
Eventually the government will all but write these loans off unfortunately.
The education bureaucracy is bloated because of this easy access to money.
We need to end such easy access and frankly we should convert the universities into private institutions and get the government out of the university management business. We can use the money we have been spending on them to fund vouchers for higher ed. This will create competition for students and hopefully lower cost as the profit motives of private institutions will squeeze cost.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 8:38 pm to Lsujacket66
quote:
Schools accepting federal funds would have to share in the burden of unpaid student debt. How it would work is unclear, but the goal is clearly to improve job placement and push students towards careers with higher probability for loan repayment.
So gummint is going to tell your kids what they can major in. That will go over great.
How many pre meds do the plan to allow? We are short on MDs. Will they increase funding for residencies?
Is gummint going to force companies to create work study programs? Who carries the financial burden for that?
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:05 am to Lsujacket66
they can start by getting rid of worthless degrees.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:07 am to Lsujacket66
Not giving student loans for worthless Fine Arts degrees would be a good start. They also need to rein in proprietary schools like Delta College, etc. They're very expensive with sketchy results.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 6:11 am
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