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re: There is a world wide helium shortage and we may need to ban party balloons
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:50 pm to castorinho
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:50 pm to castorinho
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your joke would be great, if we were talking about Hydrogen....
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castorinho
Hmmm, so where do you think the joke really was?
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:51 pm to lowhound
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I know you have to install the weight cells on the loading tank scales upside down. The tank was actually lighter when full.
They wouldn't just measure the pressure of the tank?
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:54 pm to Ed Osteen
It's liquified compressed He, the liquid is weighed. Same principle when the hardware store weighs your propane tank on a scale when they're filling it. A full tank is supposed to have a certain weight.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:58 pm to fr33manator
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I’m saying that if at some point we actually Need it and we deplete the earth bound sources, then perhaps we’ll find a feasible way to extract it.
The reason there is so little in the atmosphere is that it is so light that it eventually flies off into space. So even that would be a temporary solution.
What we really need are room temperature superconductors.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 5/10/19 at 3:03 pm to MountainTiger
Hugoton panhandle field is a big source. It’s clearly been somewhat depleted and not a ton of new drilling has gone on out there with the large push to shale gas. I saw a deal 3-4 years ago where an independent had a prospect in the orogrande basin and there was some helium rich gas that was speculated as possible. The figure per mcf for that gas was much higher than other natural gas at the time so can’t imagine now.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 3:04 pm to lowhound
ahh gotcha, interesting. It makes sense I had just never really thought about it
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 5/10/19 at 3:06 pm to Ed Osteen
I blame Ronnie from Hoppers.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 3:08 pm to LCA131
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Why don't they just remove the 'O' from water and keep the H2??
Science tries to make everything SO hard.
He is inert so there are no compounds to remove it from.
H will work to fill up a kids ballon but it has a major drawback, just ask the Germans about it.
The OT is eat up with people that don't understand middle school science.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 3:24 pm to Obtuse1
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He is inert so there are no compounds to remove it from.
H will work to fill up a kids ballon but it has a major drawback, just ask the Germans about it.
The OT is eat up with people that don't understand middle
Or humor.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:13 pm to fr33manator
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It’s literally in the air
Wrong. It’s mined from the ground
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:23 pm to Dr RC
If we solved the fusion power problem, we could just make a limitless supply of cheap energy fusion hydrogen into helium.
We should do that anyway, even if we didn't need the helium.
We should do that anyway, even if we didn't need the helium.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:23 pm to Obtuse1
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He is inert so there are no compounds to remove it from.
H will work to fill up a kids ballon but it has a major drawback, just ask the Germans about it.
The OT is eat up with people that don't understand middle school science
What about natural gas? Hasn't natural gas been booming? If helium is such a problem then frick it, use NG for the balloons.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:27 pm to LCA131
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Or humor.
The problem was there was zero humor or wit contained in your post. To be witty you have to have an understanding of the subject matter and display it, otherwise, it simply sounds dumb.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:27 pm to Dr RC
Gas Chromatographs for many years used helium as the carrier gas to move the materials (in a gaseous state) through the chromatographic columns. At least ten years ago, we were notified by the gas suppliers that we had to come up with new procedures that relied on some other carrier gas, because the world was running our of helium. The gas we sued was nitrogen and (in the pharmaceutical industry) we had to eat the cost of testing procedure development and validation.
The shortage of helium is a big deal. God only made a certain amount of it and unless we blast it out into space (rocket fuel tank pressurization) we have what we have and not more. The simple truth is that "too many things" use helium gas - like the internals of power generators in big steam generating plants.
Hopefully, they will work out other options for replacing helium gas. (almost all GC testing now uses other carrier gas). I haven't read the posts yet. The Macy's New Years day parade balloons use a lot of helium (which is lighter than air), as do military dirigibles. Helium is also lighter then air, but go check the Hindenburg to see how well that works.
I can see outlawing party balloons, and Macy's balloons, or at least taxing them into extinction.
The shortage of helium is a big deal. God only made a certain amount of it and unless we blast it out into space (rocket fuel tank pressurization) we have what we have and not more. The simple truth is that "too many things" use helium gas - like the internals of power generators in big steam generating plants.
Hopefully, they will work out other options for replacing helium gas. (almost all GC testing now uses other carrier gas). I haven't read the posts yet. The Macy's New Years day parade balloons use a lot of helium (which is lighter than air), as do military dirigibles. Helium is also lighter then air, but go check the Hindenburg to see how well that works.
I can see outlawing party balloons, and Macy's balloons, or at least taxing them into extinction.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:31 pm to Obtuse1
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The problem was there was zero humor or wit contained in your post. To be witty you have to have an understanding of the subject matter and display it, otherwise, it simply sounds dumb
Ok.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:42 pm to MeridianDog
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God only made a certain amount of it and unless we blast it out into space (rocket fuel tank pressurization) we have what we have and not more.
Actually, it is worse than that. Once helium is released into the atmosphere it eventually escapes so not only does the world have a finite amount now that amount is dwindling as we speak and there is no way to stop it.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:58 pm to Obtuse1
I'm gonna start a company to mine the sun. There's plenty helium there.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 5:01 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Put me in for 50 bucks. And for the record I said that in a high-pitched, weird voice...
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