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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:44 am to The Spleen
It’s not just “hipster and granola” parents if you are trying to say it’s just liberals. I know a Super conservative chick who is also the most ridiculous anti vaxxer out there. One picture she has her gun in her work out pants saying #comeandgetit and the next one she is talking about some ridiculous stats that are obviously slanted toward her way of thought. I also know some very liberal folks who tell the anti vaxxers to gtfo and get your kids their shots. What I am saying is the crazy is everywhere and this one thing seems to have infected both sides with the dumb.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:45 am to lsunurse
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outbreak is all because of illegal immigrants.
It isn't all from illegals but something is causing it. Last week an infant contracted the measles in St. Clair Co Alabama because it was too young to have the vaccine.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:46 am to bigberg2000
It's people that are very dumb and think they are smart
The worst people
The worst people
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:06 am to The Spleen
quote:you believe those stats bc you want to believe those stats. Stats from 3rd world shitholes are bs.
Mexico and most Central American countries have higher vaccination rates than the US.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:08 am to lsunurse
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You are falling right into where the idiotic anti vaxxers want you to be if you think the measles outbreak is all because of illegal immigrants.
The US vaccination rate has been steady since the late 90s at 91-92%.
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But we haven’t had serious outbreaks in the last 20 years until now. What’s the difference? The amount of illegals flooding our border has increased
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WASHINGTON — The number of undocumented immigrants crossing the southern border last month was the highest total for February in 12 years, according to statistics released by Customs and Border Protection on Tuesday. In 28 days, and in the same month President Donald Trump declared a national emergency in order to build a border wall, 76,103 immigrants without the needed documentation to enter the U.S. either presented themselves at legal ports of entry or were apprehended by Border Patrol between ports of entry.
Relatively the number of diseases is not that high. But it’s much higher than the US rate. And the rate that diseased people are coming into the US is much higher than the rate of people being infected within the US. My other post cited the 2000+ quarantined illegals, greater than the total number of Measles cases this year by almost 3x.
I’m not saying these are bad people, and I’m not trying to blame all our problems on them. But this is something everybody needs to understand. It’s a major concern for our safety. 3% of people (at minimum) do not generate antibodies when given a vaccine. Those people are susceptible to measles from these sources. Some of those people will die, through no fault of their own, if exposed to these diseased people, who have no right to enter our country and infect our populace
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:10 am to JudgeHolden
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JudgeHolden
Do you seriously think people pouring in from all over the world, most of whom we have no info on, are NOT bringing diseases with them? I'm genuinely curious.
Vaccination by the hipster, granola parents would certainly help. But, your question makes it seem like you want to lay the blame solely at their feet.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:14 am to Geauxboy
Anyone that blames it entirely on one group is ignorant, and likely has an agenda. It's happening because of BOTH things.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:24 am to The Spleen
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Anyone that blames it entirely on one group is ignorant, and likely has an agenda. It's happening because of BOTH things.
An admission that it’s both things is perfectly acceptable IMO. I’m not arguing against vaccination. I’m arguing for the people who have been vaccinated, but did not develop immunity. Those people have to be protected from the diseases. Which means you have to prevent the sources from coming here
The unfortunate issue is that most people don’t know or won’t admit that (1) some people are vaccinated but cannot develop immunity and do not know it, and (2) illegal immigrants are bringing disease into our country at high rates. People are too quick to blame anti-vaxxers, call them stupid, and move on with their fingers in their ears and their eyes covered
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:25 am to lsunurse
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Actually...places like Mexico have higher vaccination rates than the U.S. Kids there HAVE to be vaccinated in order to even go to school there. No vaccinations...kids don't go to school. No waivers, no religious exemption bullshite like we allow in our country. No vaccines...no school.
While this is true you also have to take into account that a large percentage of our illegal mexican immigrants did not attend school.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:25 am to member12
Who on TD is gonna be the first measles candidate?
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:33 am to Fat and Happy
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Who on TD is gonna be the first measles candidate?
SirWinston. He’s located in a measles hotbed in Seattle
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:37 am to member12
From the weekly threads, you’d think 764 people were dead. How many people have died? How many seriously injured? I’m assuming none, or that would be prominently displayed in the stats.
Why the constant hand-wringing over something so inconsequential? 20 people die of lightning strikes every year; 400+ die falling out of bed; 900 are killed by lawn mowers. 700 casesof measles with no deaths doesn’t warrant the pearl clutching exhibited daily on this board.
Why the constant hand-wringing over something so inconsequential? 20 people die of lightning strikes every year; 400+ die falling out of bed; 900 are killed by lawn mowers. 700 casesof measles with no deaths doesn’t warrant the pearl clutching exhibited daily on this board.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:41 am to MrLarson
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It isn't all from illegals but something is causing it. Last week an infant contracted the measles in St. Clair Co Alabama because it was too young to have the vaccine.
Well, just a shot in the dark, but maybe, it's those that aren't vaccinated from the measles that are causing it? That would be immigrants and anti-vacc'ers.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:42 am to Upperdecker
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The unfortunate issue is that most people don’t know or won’t admit that (1) some people are vaccinated but cannot develop immunity and do not know it, and (2) illegal immigrants are bringing disease into our country at high rates. People are too quick to blame anti-vaxxers, call them stupid, and move on with their fingers in their ears and their eyes covered
I'd contend that those immune to the vaccination is a smaller number than the ever growing pod of anti-vaxxers.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:44 am to member12
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Other states reporting cases include Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oregon, Texas, Tennessee and Washington.
Finally, Louisiana is not on one of the bad lists!!
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:44 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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How many people have died? How many seriously injured? I’m assuming none, or that would be prominently displayed in the stats.
You don't necessarily die from Measles. But it can cause premature births, birth defects, and death among infants who can't get the vaccine early enough.
As someone who is planning on having another child in the near future, this is a big concern.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:48 am to BugAC
A big concern? Falling into a wood chipper should be higher on your list.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 10:01 am to MrLarson
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It isn't all from illegals but something is causing it. Last week an infant contracted the measles in St. Clair Co Alabama because it was too young to have the vaccine.
Well illegal immigration has been around for a long time. I was under the impression Trump had been successful curbing much of it, yet measles are through the roof this year.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 10:02 am to member12
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This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 11:46 am
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