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Today's Advocate article RE: LSU's procedures for pitchers to prevent and treat sore arms

Posted on 5/5/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133557 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 2:03 pm
This article answers a lot of the complaints on this board regarding LSU's procedures for preventing and treating arm soreness. I realize it won't stop the bitching....

quote:

LSU uses the term “arm soreness” to describe an injury that does not definitively require surgery or rule a player out for the season. It’s chronic pain, more difficult to treat because the source of the injury may come from a different area of the body.

Arm problems extend past LSU, affecting pitchers throughout the country, from little league to professional baseball.

Georgia ace Emerson Hancock missed a second straight start this weekend. Oregon State’s Kevin Abel, who threw a complete-game shutout to win the 2018 College World Series, announced last month he needed Tommy John surgery.

When players arrive at LSU, Couture performs a full-body screen.

Using a laser protractor, Couture measures the players' joints to find an arm’s range of motion.

Pitchers throw so much that over time, Couture said, one of the joints in their shoulder rotates toward their back. It can create muscle fatigue.

“It makes you asymmetrical,” Couture said, “which isn't necessarily a good thing.”

The screens give LSU a base point, sometimes showing if a player is more susceptible to injury, which helps the medical staff individualize training.

LSU pitchers visit the training room inside Alex Box Stadium twice per week, whether or not they have an injury.

The medical staff measures the pitchers’ joints, either with the laser or their hands. Then they work on soft tissue. LSU also contracts a massage therapy company.

When a pitcher develops an arm injury, Couture examines the shoulder blade, hips and ankles. With a chronic injury, Couture said, there’s probably something else creating pain.

LSU puts its pitchers through a series of steps after an injury.

First, pain must subside.

Second, the medical staff restores range of motion.

Then the pitcher has to regain his strength.

Next comes a series of exercises before picking up a baseball.

Only when the pitcher does not feel pain as he performs these drills can he play light catch.


It's a long article. I just quoted a few paragraphs from it.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23823 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 2:07 pm to
We should be the foremost experts in the subject. We’re gonna become the MD Anderson of Arm Soreness pretty soon.
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
5053 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 2:09 pm to
That’s really good info. It sounds like we are pretty thorough.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29479 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 2:10 pm to
If anyone doesn’t want to read the article it says the same thing about 5 of us have been telling y’all all season
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

If anyone doesn’t want to read the article it says the same thing about 5 of us have been telling y’all all season

Link to your post regarding the Laser Protractor???
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29479 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Link to your post regarding the Laser Protractor???




I haven’t seen anything that specific but I’ve seen multiple people post about how the trainers go through every single new pitcher and diagnose a plan for them.

That wasn’t me because I had absolutely no idea how they handled the pitchers.

I’ve been staying since the beginning of the season that this is far from an LSU only problem
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 2:32 pm to
yet you left out the part about amputation.
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
4968 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 2:37 pm to
good stuff...
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75872 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 2:52 pm to
I read that earlier. Good article. It answered my question about if they're using a lotus sleeve or not. It looks like they are.
Posted by ptljc
Pineville, la
Member since Jan 2007
28 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:30 pm to
Well, whatever they're doing, they need to stop it!LOL
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295888 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:33 pm to
These guys are abused long before they get to LSU
Posted by ramchallenge
Member since Nov 2009
3537 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:42 pm to
Too much travel ball and playing year round baseball for high schoolers and young kids!
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

I’ve been staying since the beginning of the season that this is far from an LSU only problem

True. State had six lost for the year when we beat them in the Supers. Georgia and Auburn are without their Friday night guys, I believe.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75872 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

State had six lost for the year when we beat them in the Supers.


Kind of. A lot of the ones that were out were recovering from surgery from their injury the year prior. I only make the distinction because it was two different staffs and pitching coaches each of those years.

And the guy that was the pitching coach the year most of the injuries happened is one of the most well respected guys in the industry and just jumped from Arkansas to the Twins as their actual pitching coach, not just a guy in their org.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:44 pm to
Maybe the Flux Capacitor would help because whatever they are doing is not working.

The printing of this article means CPM is hearing complaints. As he should.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:58 pm to
I think this staff is overly cautious with pitchers and rightfully so. It sucks when so many happen at one time but I would rather take a subpar season than LSU get a reputation for ruining arms.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

I would rather take a subpar season than LSU get a reputation for ruining arms.

Exactly. It wasn’t that long ago when MLB was complaining about college ball doing just that.
I think it’s improved greatly.
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4798 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:55 pm to
Is there anyone on the football team who can bring the heat and get 3 outs??
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
6107 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 4:08 pm to
The writer only points out two other pitchers from two different teams as evidence that other teams have issues with pitching arm as well. Its not any news that pitchers from time to time have arm issues. Nobody disputes that. The question that nobody addresses is do other teams have as has MANY pitchers with arm problems as LSU? And its not limited to this year. Maybe the information isn't available.
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