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re: Will Kyler Murray be the biggest reach in NFL Draft History?

Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:16 pm to
Tim Tebow was a first round draft pick.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:18 pm to
Tebow made even less sense though.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:19 pm to
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Russell Wilson, the guy he is compared to the most went in the 3rd round.


Well... he probably shouldn’t have in hindsight

Always best to be the second guy in line in these situations
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:30 pm to
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IIRC, Jeff George was considered a huge reach, and only the Colts were interested in drafting him that high. He wasn’t a highly coveted pick, especially not trading like the Colts did to take him #1 overall. I could be remembering that wrong though.



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FALCONS WANT GEORGE NO. 1

Fred Mitchell
CHICAGO TRIBUNE


April 11, 1990


On a scale of 1 to 10, one National Football League scout was asked: How would you rate the passing skills demonstrated by Illinois quarterback Jeff George during recent workouts?

''I would rate him a 12,'' said the scout, one of two dozen or so who converged on the junior-eligible rookie combine in Indianapolis last weekend. George performed in front of 15 NFL scouts in Champaign last week. He reportedly unleashed passes of 80 yards to Illinois teammate and pro prospect Mike Bellamy, as well as snappy timing-touch tosses that caught the eyes of the evaluating contingent.

His stock has risen so rapidly in the past several days the Atlanta Falcons now say they will make him the No. 1 pick in the April 22-23 draft.

A highly recruited star at Warren Central High School in Indianapolis, George transferred from Purdue to Illinois after considering Miami.

''I learn offenses quickly; I had to,'' George said last weekend in Indianapolis, where he underwent a physical but did not throw.

''If a team (in the NFL) wants me to play right off, that`s what I want. I don`t want to go to a team, sit on the bench and wait for my time to come. That`s why I decided to go to the NFL.''

George would become the first ever Illinois No. 1 (overall) pick in the NFL.

The New England Patriots, who have the third choice in the first round, were hoping George would be around when they make their selection.


Posted by VolInBavaria
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:31 pm to
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Baker is not a superior passer to Murray

Lmao what
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:35 pm to
Kyler will be a top 5 qb within 3 years.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:36 pm to
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Russell Wilson, the guy he is compared to the most went in the 3rd round.

That was also five years ago. Things change. He played in a system that the NFL has moved towards. Also, Murray is faster than Wilson.

This idea that he's a massive reach is a dated comment. Maybe if it was 2009 or 1999. But not now.
Posted by TigerCruise
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:37 pm to
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it has everything to do with everything. are you fricking retarded? do you not understand how QB stats tend to progress from their sophmore to junior to senior years?


You're basically arguing what I said in the OP.

Murray has 1 year of experience, not 4 like like Baker Mayfield.

Thus he's completely overhyped and will need several years just to become a viable NFL QB.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:37 pm to
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Will Kyler Murray be the biggest reach in NFL Draft History?


No, that would be the Bengals taking Akili Smith with the 3rd overall pick. The Saints offered 9 draft picks, including a pair of #1s, for the pick. Saints wanted Rickey Williams.

Smith's stats-

-signed a $56 million contract, $10+MM signing bonus
-threw 5 touchdowns (not in a game or even a season- for his career)
-26 turnovers (13 interceptions & 13 fumbles)
-17/41 154 yards 0/1 were his combined stats from his 3rd & 4th seasons in the NFL (his final 2)


Next 4 picks were: Edge James, Rickey Williams, Tory Holt, & Champ Bailey


Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:37 pm to
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Tim Tebow was a first round draft pick.

Because Josh McDaniels made for a terrible GM & HC.
Posted by TigerCruise
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:38 pm to
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Because Josh McDaniels made for a terrible GM & HC.


Kingsbury says hold my beer
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:42 pm to
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Kyler will be a top 5 qb within 3 years.



Is this because all the best QBs now retire and the league contracts to 8 teams due to the XFL eating their lunch?
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:42 pm to
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Kyler will be a top 5 qb within 3 years.


No. He'll be regretting choosing football over baseball in three years.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:44 pm to
This idea that Murray will be a massive bust is so short sided.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:45 pm to
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No. He'll be regretting choosing football over baseball in three years.


The crowd that thinks this is borderline 'tarded
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:47 pm to
I’m leaving George’s abilities alone, as he was seen as kind of a JaMarcus Russell of his day.


His intangibles should have scared the shite out of everyone though.

How many high end prospects, especially in those days, ended job transferring multiple times in high school and college? It should have gotten the Colts to take a closer look at why he bounced around so much. As it turned out, it is because he was an a-hole.
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:49 pm to
He is going be the biggest bust in history mark it down..
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:54 pm to
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No. He'll be regretting choosing football over baseball in three years.
his bank account won't.
Posted by Uncle Stu
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:57 pm to
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No, that would be the Bengals taking Akili Smith with the 3rd overall pick

yep, was just going to post this

In the weeks leading up to that draft, his agent was doing work. We've all seen busts, but Smith had no reason to go in the 1st.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 5:01 pm to
What about the Raiders taking DHB 8th overall, ahead of Crabtree, Maclin and Harvin?
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