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For all those who blame Joe Alleva (or King) for the Wade situation....
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:30 am
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:30 am
STOP BIENG CHILDREN!
Alleva did not do this to Wade.
Wade did this to Wade.
Wade cheated, broke the rules. Anyone who tries to claim otherwise is just lying to himself. The transcripts are pretty clear - he was offering to pay Smart's family to get him to LSU. The fact that other programs do the same is irrelevant. Wade got caught - which brings me to my next point...
Wade is an idiot. If you are going to pay players and make deals to do so with shady agents and middlemen, don't do it on the phone; don't handle it personally - be smart like other coaches and use middlemen and talk in back alleys or closed apartments off campus - places where you cannot be seen or heard. Yes many college coaches cheat, but most are smart enough not to get caught in person in a blatant cheating situation.
Finally, Wade refuses to explain himself to his superiors. This puts Alleva and LSU in a box - they have no choice but to suspend him. If Wade would come in with some reasonable explanation of innocence - what that conversation really was - they might be able to keep him on as HC. But he can't - because there is no reasonable and innocent way to explain that conversation. So what do you expect LSU to do - allow an obvious cheater to continue to coach? That would risk this season and future seasons and it would be absolutely horrible for the players on the team. No, Alleva had no choice but to do what he did - for the team and for LSU.
Wade's absence is not Joe Alleva's fault. It's Will Wade's fault. He cheated and stupidly got caught. And then he refuses to provide an explanation to demonstrate his claimed innocence.
Wade's done folks. If I were Alleva, I would have fired him immediately and started looking for my next HC. After this, I can't see how LSU can possibly keep Wade onboard. You guys need to stop trying to defend him and move on - for the sake of the program.
The point is: Wade did this to himself. Alleva and the LSU management had no choice but to do what they did and certainly could have (and in my opinion, should have) done more (ie, let him go).
Alleva did not do this to Wade.
Wade did this to Wade.
Wade cheated, broke the rules. Anyone who tries to claim otherwise is just lying to himself. The transcripts are pretty clear - he was offering to pay Smart's family to get him to LSU. The fact that other programs do the same is irrelevant. Wade got caught - which brings me to my next point...
Wade is an idiot. If you are going to pay players and make deals to do so with shady agents and middlemen, don't do it on the phone; don't handle it personally - be smart like other coaches and use middlemen and talk in back alleys or closed apartments off campus - places where you cannot be seen or heard. Yes many college coaches cheat, but most are smart enough not to get caught in person in a blatant cheating situation.
Finally, Wade refuses to explain himself to his superiors. This puts Alleva and LSU in a box - they have no choice but to suspend him. If Wade would come in with some reasonable explanation of innocence - what that conversation really was - they might be able to keep him on as HC. But he can't - because there is no reasonable and innocent way to explain that conversation. So what do you expect LSU to do - allow an obvious cheater to continue to coach? That would risk this season and future seasons and it would be absolutely horrible for the players on the team. No, Alleva had no choice but to do what he did - for the team and for LSU.
Wade's absence is not Joe Alleva's fault. It's Will Wade's fault. He cheated and stupidly got caught. And then he refuses to provide an explanation to demonstrate his claimed innocence.
Wade's done folks. If I were Alleva, I would have fired him immediately and started looking for my next HC. After this, I can't see how LSU can possibly keep Wade onboard. You guys need to stop trying to defend him and move on - for the sake of the program.
The point is: Wade did this to himself. Alleva and the LSU management had no choice but to do what they did and certainly could have (and in my opinion, should have) done more (ie, let him go).
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:31 am to Buda
I'm not reading all of that shite
And no one else here will either
Eat a dick and this downvote
And no one else here will either
Eat a dick and this downvote
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:31 am to Buda
You got it Joe
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:32 am to Buda
What time did that e-mail from Ponamsky/Ree hit your inbox?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:32 am to Buda
Not saying I agree or disagree with you, but this isn't exactly a new take.
Probably 30 threads have been started with the same outlook.
Come back when you have something new to discuss.
Probably 30 threads have been started with the same outlook.
Come back when you have something new to discuss.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:33 am to Buda
Gtfo alter
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:34 am to Buda
quote:
Wade cheated, broke the rules
If that is clear, then they should fire him.
They can't even fire someone correctly.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:34 am to Buda
Point is you’re a bitch
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:34 am to Buda
quote:
Wade did this to Wade.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:35 am to Buda
I wouldn’t piss on Alleva or FKA if they were on fire.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:35 am to Buda
I really cant think of that many other incidents where an AD handled a situation so poorly.
That duke rape lacrosse scandal was handled awfully.
Who was their AD during all of that? His name slips my memory.
That duke rape lacrosse scandal was handled awfully.
Who was their AD during all of that? His name slips my memory.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 11:36 am
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:36 am to Buda
Where did this idiot come from?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:36 am to Buda
quote:
Buda
GTFO. No one wants to hear that BS. Go post on ULL’s message board if you want to bash the coach.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:36 am to Buda
212 posts in 10 years. Another burner account.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:37 am to Buda
Phew, thank god you presented all those facts because I haven't heard them yet. Moron.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:37 am to Goldrush25
quote:
If that is clear, then they should fire him
This. If it’s so cut and dry... fire him. Obviously it’s not.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:37 am to Buda
Talks between Wade and LSU must have reached another breakdown, because LSU is sending in the message board trolls.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:37 am to Buda
Calm down Dickie V
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:37 am to Buda
I’m not reading all that but based on the first 2 sentences I can see that you completely missed the boat on why we are angry.
It’s not whether or not Wade screwed up, it’s that Alleva suspended him with zero due process.
He read a story by a journalist that throws shite at the wall and responded by asking his coach to meet under conditions that no one could ever agree to (no counsel and NCAA present). When Wade didn’t agree to his ridiculous meeting he suspended him.
In conclusion, he suspended wade based on media reports. I hate to break it to you but the media is often wrong.
Instead of letting it play out in the courts and taking action once some actual facts came to light, Alleva tried to put the fire out by throwing gasoline on it.
Alleva is the one making shitty comments in the media and he’s the one that has kept this story in the spotlight with his ridiculous incompetence.
It’s not whether or not Wade screwed up, it’s that Alleva suspended him with zero due process.
He read a story by a journalist that throws shite at the wall and responded by asking his coach to meet under conditions that no one could ever agree to (no counsel and NCAA present). When Wade didn’t agree to his ridiculous meeting he suspended him.
In conclusion, he suspended wade based on media reports. I hate to break it to you but the media is often wrong.
Instead of letting it play out in the courts and taking action once some actual facts came to light, Alleva tried to put the fire out by throwing gasoline on it.
Alleva is the one making shitty comments in the media and he’s the one that has kept this story in the spotlight with his ridiculous incompetence.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:38 am to Buda
quote:
Wade cheated, broke the rules.
Link?
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