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Starting Woodworking, what should I get?

Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:31 pm
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:31 pm
About a year ago I got an estimate for a custom built in for our laundry room. Guy got busy and we just never got it done. Don't know why, but I started roughly looking into the cost to build it all myself, and I can pretty much buy the tools I don't have and materials to do it myself and come in around $1k less than the quote. I might not become a full on "woodworking is my hobby" type of guy, but I do enjoy projects like this and I'll save money and build my tool collection.

This will basically be cabinets, shelves, clothes folding table with dog kennel below, and a mud-room locker. Shaker style cabinets...nothing too fancy.

I've done a lot in the past (installed doors, installed tile, laminate flooring, built rough shelving, etc.). But I've never done much finish work. I have basic tools: small miter saw, circular saw, nail gun, compressor, drill, etc.. But lack some tools I know I'll need or at least want.

If you were starting, what tools would you really want? I'm trying to price this whole thing out before I get into it. So far I have

-Track for circular saw to rip plywood (~$80)
-Router table and new router (have one, but it's harbor freight garbage)(~$250)
-Kreg Jig for pocket holes(~$100 if I get a fancy one)
-Kreg Jig for adjustable shelf holes ($35)
-orbital sander (~$90)
-Lots of clamps (~?)

Anything I should account for before making a leap into this (probably will build up arsenal over next few months)? I feel I don't really need some things like a table saw even if it would be nice. I can just get it done with other tools.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32605 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Track for circular saw to rip plywood (~$80)
-Router table and new router (have one, but it's harbor freight garbage)(~$250)
-Kreg Jig for pocket holes(~$100 if I get a fancy one)
-Kreg Jig for adjustable shelf holes ($35)
-orbital sander (~$90)
-Lots of clamps (~?)


This is my exact current shopping list except for the router. My FIL had one in his shop that he has never used, so he gave it to me.

The only thing I would add is a planer, but I want to start building tables and counter tops.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 12:41 pm
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:41 pm to


For reference, this is what I've drawn up so far (lacking details like cabinet door and drawer details.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67508 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:46 pm to
IMO buying the wood you want in the proper size will be the problem. If you design something 12" wide, the piece of wood you'll most likely get will be 11 3/4" wide. So to get the size wood you want, you'll to over buy and cut it down.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38790 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:54 pm to
Table saw w/ dado blade
Miter saw (I have a radial arm version)
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15277 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:29 pm to
My table saw is the most used tool in my shop by far.

I made my own router table for my large router. It is a 3 HP Porter Cable that I use for things like raised panel doors, heavy profiling, etc. That router is a beast and not one to be used by hand for the most part.

I also use my jointer/planer a lot to get nicely finished edges at 90 degrees for edge gluing boards to make door panels, carcass sides, table tops, etc.

I'd get a table saw for sure and they can be found relatively cheap on places like Craig's list or similar sites.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 3:36 pm to
You don’t really need a router table. Just a router will be fine.

But without a table saw and sled, you’re going to struggle with any sort of fine cutting, if things don’t fit off the circular saw cut. Especially if you don’t have a 12” or sliding miter saw. Problem is, any table saw worth buying is going to run you at least $500 unless you’re willing to go used.

IMO, you don’t need any of the Kreg jigs. I have both you mentioned and prefer to build cabinets without them.

You might think about some sort of paint sprayer. If you’re spraying latex, the mid range wagners will work. If you’re spraying non-water based, you might get by with a harbor freight gravity fed gun and using your compressor.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4550 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:00 pm to
As stated above: Kreg Jig, Miter Saw, and a Planer 14" feeding width.
Posted by EsquireReb
Member since Jan 2014
104 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:48 pm to
1. Drill set - most name brands are okay
2. Kreg jig set
3. Miter saw
4. Sander - orbital
5. Circular saw
6. Clamps
7. Tape measure, speed square, straight edge
8. Dust mask - often overlooked by beginners but use especially when sanding indoors.

You can do a lot with the above and get experience. To go a step further I would then look to add:

5. Table saw
6. Planer
7. Router - possibly two depending on what you are doing. I use a small trim router a lot but also a larger router for mounting in a table/etc. with plunge capability.
8. Jointer - I put this last because you can buy surfaced wood in the beginning even though a jointer is very nice to have.
9. Jigsaw - maybe higher on the list - depends what you want to make. I don't use one a whole lot.
10. Air compressor with nail gun set.

I use a festool track saw a lot to break down plywood but you can make a guide for a circular saw that works and is a lot more economic. There is a lot of youtube videos on making a circular saw guide. OR like mentioned, Kreg makes a guide too but I have never tried/used it before.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 5:49 pm
Posted by brokelikeajoke
Member since Jan 2019
231 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:56 pm to
if you will be doing rabbits on a table saw for cabinets (highly recommended as above) then you will need to build a cross cut sled -- look up videos.

I've been building custom cabinets for years as a DIY'r and it is amazing to be able to reconfigure a kitchen or add customs in some portion of the house.

With the router you will be able to match existing profiles if needed (sometimes you must combine bits and do multiple passes to match a hard to find or outdated profile).

I have made approx a dozen 5 piece raised panel cabinet doors (some fairly large) with just a router and table, be warned that it will take ~5 passes for each side of the raised panel. The amount of wood removed is ridiculous. A shaper is much better and can be found on craigslist/etc all the time if you really get into the hobby.

Don't expect to make heirloom quality stuff your first half dozen cabinets, lol.

Posted by The Dude Abides
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2010
2231 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

If you were starting, what tools would you really want? I'm trying to price this whole thing out before I get into it. So far I have

-Track for circular saw to rip plywood (~$80)
-Router table and new router (have one, but it's harbor freight garbage)(~$250)
-Kreg Jig for pocket holes(~$100 if I get a fancy one)
-Kreg Jig for adjustable shelf holes ($35)
-orbital sander (~$90)
-Lots of clamps (~?)
I'd ditch the track for the circular saw and buy a table saw, it's something you can always use, plus when you start ripping down plywood with a circular saw you're going wish you had one

A random orbital sander (corded) is about $50
Harbor freight is the place for bar and trigger clamps. Anything over a couple of feet and you're better off with pipe clamps. Be sure and post pics when you're done.
Posted by SmartTiger03
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2013
46 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:12 am to
1. Table saw is a must. It make the job so much easier. You want everything to be as straight as possible.
2. Planer. Being able to plane your facing and door material saves a ton of time.
3. Levels and framing square.

I will also suggest using white maple for your doors and facing. It’s a hard wood, so it hold up well to the wear and tear.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
1794 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Track for circular saw to rip plywood


Are you referencing the Kreg track? I have one and it works. When I purchased this I also bought a dedicated circular saw to leave in the guide.

I also have a table saw and use it as well. The track saw works much better to cross rip a sheet of plywood, however to make several of the same smaller cuts, the table saw worked to make them faster.

Before buying the Kreg setup, I used a 50" straight edge clamp from Harbor Freight to make straight rips. I also have an 8 foot straight edge to use as a guide for ripping plywood lengthwise.

Don't skimp out on a good powerful circular saw. It is a noticeable difference between my "first" circular saw (budget Skilsaw) and my Porter Cable and Hitachi saws.

I also recommend adding at least 4 of the plastic foldable sawhorses. I have 6 of the ones with notches to place a 2x4 in to support plywood to make cuts. I also have a couple of homemade heavy 2x4/ 2x6 sawhorses for when I need clamping and added support.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:09 am to
quote:

If you were starting, what tools would you really want?
Patience
Posted by LA_KY
'Merica
Member since Mar 2018
158 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:21 pm to
A few random thoughts/tips. I’ve been woodworking for a few years now and fumbling my way through a lot of this without any sort of mentor. I don’t do cabinets, more-so furniture. My biggest piece of advice would be to not buy everything at the get go, just buy the few things you need for the project at hand. Many of my projects come with one or two new toys I “need” to get it done.

- Youtube is a great resource to learn, just remember that they’ll exclude/skip stuff in the videos often to make them more watchable.
- If you’re in a large city, look for “makers’ spaces” a lot of time you can rent time on a planer or jointer if needed.
- Router – get one, skip the table. When you need one, just drop a large hole in a board and connect your router to the bottom, add a fence if needed… Save money and space and skip the fancy table.
- Table saw - Lowes and home depot will break down sheets with reasonable accuracy. I stress reasonable…just know you’ll have to work to get it fine tunes so I always have them cut a bit long if I have to use them. This can help you get by without a table saw. A job-site/portable table saw can be very tricky vs. a full shop sized table saw. I have a portable and get by but would be really nice to have the weight and ingress/egress of a big one. Respect this tool, if you get lazy with safety on this it’s a great way to get hurt. Watch “table saw kick back” videos on youtube.
- Compound sliding Miter saw (aka “chop saw”) - The most used tool I have. If you’re doing cabinets this will be very nice to have for trim work.
- Nail gun - Depending on the project a battery operated can be super useful (Ryobi 16ga does nails and staples I think). Hammer and nail can obviously get you by without this.
- Clamps, figure out how many you need and buy twice that
- Don’t have a proper workbench? No problem, buy a couple of sawhorses and a good solid/heavy surface like MDF to toss on top. I have to use this often as I’m working outdoors typically.
- Eye/ear protection are no joke, you may think you’ll be ok, but it’s quite easy to get stuff in your eyes. If you’re doing something really sandy, like using a router, then a filter for your mouth may be warranted.
- Kreg Jigs – Get one. I agree with the comments that you don’t really “need” Kreg jigs, but man they make it a LOT easier to get started with this stuff. You’ll get to where you skip using them sometimes, but to get started and gain momentum/confidence I’d advise getting one. I used the kreg jig mini for a long time, and recently upgraded to the full ~$100 version. You can get by with the either, but the large one speeds things up considerably. Their clamps are also useful.
- Orbital sander – don’t underestimate the importance of properly finishing a project. Planning, cutting and assembling are often the fun parts, but finishing can be a bear. Take your time to sand properly and stain/paint properly. All your time and effort on the front end can be blown by rushing and skipping finishing steps.
- A long level, which can double as a straight edge.
- Save scrap wood, you’ll randomly need it to test finishes or build jigs.

Expect to make mistakes and have to alter plans due to a screw up, that’s half the fun.


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