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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:51 pm to RobbBobb
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:51 pm to RobbBobb
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More horsehit. They didn't have fruit and nut trees, roots, or berries back then?
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what a man did with 12-14 hours of daylight during the stone age?
Look for food, frick, starve and die.
Such a bizarre viewpoint.
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:53 pm to ShortyRob
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It STILL EXISTS!!
OK, that's embarrassing
Those tribes have been documented to not allow any outside contact. And that's only been in the last hundred years or so. Not 250,000
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:54 pm to Lg
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But you are only considering "life" as we know it and this environment that we live in.
Right, but there are limiting factors to vastly different forms of life. It's almost certainly going to be carbon based if very complex since it's the best option for making millions of compounds. Plus, it's abundant in a way, let's say Si isn't. There's got to be some mechanism for intaking energy, storing it, and using it and it's most likely going to be using water or oxygen based stuff to do much of that. Not that it has to be water, there's stuff on earth that eats on H2S instead but again, abundance.
Not to discount the potential of other mechanisms and building blocks, but there are physical reasons why carbon based is the most likely stuff we'd run into.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:56 pm to Duke
Right. "The deer stretched their necks to reach the leaves on the higher trees, and evolved into giraffes." I've seen that in college level biology texts and it's complete horse shite.
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The nitrogen, carbon, and other elements were here at the time, yes.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:57 pm to RobbBobb
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Those tribes have been documented to not allow any outside contact.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
So you are suggesting that societies forming could help advance civilization.
How very interesting...
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:58 pm to ShortyRob
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I think you meant to type the words nothing yet. It ain't like we got a team of scientists up there digging in hundreds of places.
Maybe so, but it's been around as long as Earth has and we have people that can study it.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:59 pm to RobbBobb
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Those tribes have been documented to not allow any outside contact. And that's only been in the last hundred years or so. Not 250,000
are you under the impression that these tribes used to be modern and somehow reverted a few hundred years ago? Good fricking God man
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:00 pm to Lg
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Maybe so, but it's been around as long as Earth has
Mars is older than Earth
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we have people that can study it.
There's a lot of people that have been to Mars, studying it?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:00 pm to ShortyRob
Drake equation makes for an interesting thought experiment.. especially when you break it off at "life emerges".
The important part is that we can say for certain that the odds are non-zero because we exist.
Uncommon.. but given the size of the universe.. also abundant.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:03 pm to Geauxgurt
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Where did it come from then? How can something always exist?
Eternal existence of life is the only answer. Life exists now. It has to have always been here.
You literally believe at some point in time that nothing existed, and then some minute level of life just popped into existence from nothing?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:03 pm to RobbBobb
quote:Tell you what, why don't you go out into the woods with nothing and survive on fruit and berries. You wouldn't last 3 days.
More horsehit. They didn't have fruit and nut trees, roots, or berries back then?
quote:The bronze age lasted "only" 2,000 years, huh? So even though people already knew that there were useful materials underground, and they knew how to use fire to make them into useful tools, it still took 2,000 fricking years before they found better materials and better methods.
I mean the bronze age only lasted 2,000 years. Iron age then only about 1,000. Yet for 250,000 years men sat around not even remotely interested in housing, farming, tool improvements?
And you keep saying they just "sat around". What do you not understand about survival requiring 100% of everyone's time?
quote:I can think of someone who's insane.
That's certifiably insane
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Tell me with your big brain, what a man did with 12-14 hours of daylight during the stone age? He and his social gathering DID NOTHING for 250,000 years to improve their status. 250,000 years?
My god you are a simpleton. If your basic needs weren't met, what would you do with your 12 hours of daylight every day? I'm sure you would just sit around inventing shite, right? No, because your tribe would fricking kill and eat you because they're starving.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:05 pm to Korkstand
Can you believe people like this exist?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:06 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Eternal existence of life is the only answer.
why
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Life exists now. It has to have always been here
why
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You literally believe at some point in time that nothing existed
No one anywhere believes "nothing" existed.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:06 pm to Fun Bunch
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Mars is older than Earth
Is it now?
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There's a lot of people that have been to Mars, studying it?
Well the Mars rover went on walk about and I don't think we saw anything jumping around in front of it trying to figure out what it was.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:07 pm to Lg
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Is it now?
Yes.
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Well the Mars rover went on walk about and I don't think we saw anything jumping around in front of it trying to figure out what it was.
What is your point?
No one is arguing that life is common throughout the universe.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:08 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Probably should have ended this right there.
And so on and so forth
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:09 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Right. "The deer stretched their necks to reach the leaves on the higher trees, and evolved into giraffes." I've seen that in college level biology texts and it's complete horse shite.
God did it. Then he had an elderly hobo build a boat big enough for a mommy and daddy of every animal on the planet.
I've seen that somewhere...
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:09 pm to NC_Tigah
Always. I am always drawn to these threads like tonguing the roof of my mouth after pizza burn.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:11 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Right. "The deer stretched their necks to reach the leaves on the higher trees, and evolved into giraffes." I've seen that in college level biology texts and it's complete horse shite.
Glad to know you aren't serious
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:12 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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God did it. Then he had an elderly hobo build a boat big enough for a mommy and daddy of every animal on the planet.
And then the 8 people that survived all fricked each other and created all humans today, even though that genetic bottleneck that short a period of time ago is literally impossible.
God planted genetics to throw us off the scent and test our faith.
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