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re: Trump's claim of sex trafficking being crapped on by the Left is bullsh@t..

Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:58 am to
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5884 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:58 am to
Why do you think McConnell passed the Bill to stop the drawdown in Syria?

Trump made Mitch look bad twice about border security. 1st the Senate passed a bill that Trump wanted. Then Trump changed his mind, so Ryan let it die in the house.

Then last week The Senate voted down a CR on border security. The next day Trump changed his mind and the a CR was passed.

The wall is not about Border Security anymore. It is political

Anyone that follows politics know that the many Republicans in the Senate and House are against the wall.

Border security has very little to do with sex trafficking
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 7:01 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39766 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:05 am to
They’ve painted themselves into a corner by #resisting. In order to take the position that there is no border crisis except for Trump tearing suckling infants from their mothers breast, you must minimize all realities at the border - drugs, gangs, child trafficking, etc...

This is what pissed me off about the child separation policy debate. Not only was it a continuation of pre-trump policy but it was done to protect children, who are frequently brought over by coyotes and sex traffickers. Dems didn’t gaf who they hurt, as long as they could “get Trump”. It’s disgusting.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:06 am to
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Border security has very little to do with sex trafficking



bullshite
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13694 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:11 am to
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In April Trump signed the Wagner, McCaskill Sex Trafficking Act. The safe trafficking bill was a bipartisan bill worked on by Mo Representative (R) Ann Wagner and Mo Senator (D) Claire McCaskill.




So McCaskill produces a bill for sex trafficking, but is for open borders, amnesty, no wall, etc?????? Thats quaint, Ill bust open the dam........and put a two inch drain in the river for "optics" sake.

And if less traffickers are illegal does that make it okay? And if they are illegal, they are most vulnerable because the handler can threaten to turn them in to immigration. And if they are illegal, how do you know its the smallest group, stands to reason we dont know because if we knew they were illegal and sex traffickers they would be back in their home country????

Mcdonalds did nothing for this country and deserves to be back at home.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:47 am to
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Border security has very little to do with sex trafficking



yeah, and libs only want to murder newborns rarely and safely. They are a compassionate bunch
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5884 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:49 am to
1. Know body thinks sex trafficking is okay

2. Do the majority of the GOP politicians care about Roe vs. Wade or do they just act like it? Not how we feel, but how do elected representatives feel.

3. The wall is now more political than for border security. It doesn’t matter how we feel, but I don’t think the GOP politicians care about it and have proved it over the past 2 years.

4. Democrats suck but so do republicans.

5. The Republican Party has not moved to the right if anything they have moved more to the left. The GOP is changing, but not as fast as the rest of America.

6. Why do people continue to believe a political party?
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 8:50 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75174 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:50 am to
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Border security has very little to do with sex trafficking


What the frick
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:57 am to
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What is really strange is that sex trafficking of women used to be a big issue to liberals


Well, these same Crusaders of women's rights turned a blind eye to Hillarys' complicity as related to her husbands' well known-abuse of women, so it's not surprising.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61871 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:59 am to
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If we ever blow this open the participants SHOULD be hanged. Lynched. Screw the media they can cry piss and moan but they should just get to witness a fricking lynching.

If they get in the way lynch THEM. This is unforgivable.


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THERE WILL COME A TIME NONE OF THEM WILL BE ABLE TO WALK DOWN THE STREET.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18849 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:54 am to
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To this day I still think of this whenever I hear the Left deny that this is only Trump's imagination. They are lying and ignorant to what is really happening in the REAL world.



That wasn't even a meaningful dent. I work with a couple different anti-trafficking organizations and the human commodity market from our southern border is in and of itself enough to be a national emergency.

There is a very modern day slave trade and it is UGLY!

A lot of these people end up in the sex trade, strip clubs, and "massage" parlors. The really underage ones are sold to private buyers.

In total numbers there is probably a higher count than at the peak of the slave trade.

Most of America is asleep to it.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63765 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:59 am to
I know this shite happens. Thequestion is frequency and does it justify blanket conclusions about migrants. in general.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17900 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:59 am to
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As it turned out we had in fact busted a child trafficking ring


God Bless, brother. Thank You!
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13600 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:06 am to
Horrible.

Denial is right. Another example I can't stand listening to: The average moron on the street thinks he or she is somehow qualified to discredit the information being provided by USBP Agents on the ground as fiction.....The times we live in are in many ways disgusting. There are far too many poisoned minds, out there....
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11100 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:32 am to
This is the default status of apathy

TLDR: A global sex trafficking enterprise flows through the Southern border (in plain site)

NY Times

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The Girls Next Door
By PETER LANDESMANJAN. 25, 2004




quote:

The house at 12121/ 2 West Front Street in Plainfield, N.J., is a conventional midcentury home with slate-gray siding, white trim and Victorian lines. When I stood in front of it on a breezy day in October, I could hear the cries of children from the playground of an elementary school around the corner. American flags fluttered from porches and windows. The neighborhood is a leafy, middle-class Anytown. The house is set back off the street, near two convenience stores and a gift shop. On the door of Superior Supermarket was pasted a sign issued by the Plainfield police: ''Safe neighborhoods save lives.'' The store's manager, who refused to tell me his name, said he never noticed anything unusual about the house, and never heard anything. But David Miranda, the young man behind the counter of Westside Convenience, told me he saw girls from the house roughly once a week. ''They came in to buy candy and soda, then went back to the house,'' he said. The same girls rarely came twice, and they were all very young, Miranda said. They never asked for anything beyond what they were purchasing; they certainly never asked for help. Cars drove up to the house all day; nice cars, all kinds of cars. Dozens of men came and went. ''But no one here knew what was really going on,'' Miranda said. And no one ever asked.

On a tip, the Plainfield police raided the house in February 2002, expecting to find illegal aliens working an underground brothel. What the police found were four girls between the ages of 14 and 17. They were all Mexican nationals without documentation. But they weren't prostitutes; they were sex slaves. The distinction is important: these girls weren't working for profit or a paycheck. They were captives to the traffickers and keepers who controlled their every move. ''I consider myself hardened,'' Mark J. Kelly, now a special agent with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (the largest investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security), told me recently. ''I spent time in the Marine Corps. But seeing some of the stuff I saw, then heard about, from those girls was a difficult, eye-opening experience.''


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It turned out that 1212 1/2 West Front Street was one of what law-enforcement officials say are dozens of active stash houses and apartments in the New York metropolitan area -- mirroring hundreds more in other major cities like Los Angeles, Atlanta and Chicago -- where under-age girls and young women from dozens of countries are trafficked and held captive. Most of them -- whether they started out in Eastern Europe or Latin America -- are taken to the United States through Mexico. Some of them have been baited by promises of legitimate jobs and a better life in America; many have been abducted; others have been bought from or abandoned by their impoverished families.


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BREAKING THE GIRLS IN Once the Mexican traffickers abduct or seduce the women and young girls, it's not other men who first indoctrinate them into sexual slavery but other women. The victims and officials I spoke to all emphasized this fact as crucial to the trafficking rings' success. ''Women are the principals,'' Caballero, the Mexican federal preventive police officer, told me. ''The victims are put under the influence of the mothers, who handle them and beat them. Then they give the girls to the men to beat and rape into submission.''

Traffickers understand that because women can more easily gain the trust of young girls, they can more easily crush them. ''Men are the customers and controllers, but within most trafficking organizations themselves, women are the operators,'' Haugen says. ''Women are the ones who exert violent force and psychological torture.'' This mirrors the tactics of the Eastern European rings. ''Mexican pimps have learned a lot from European traffickers,'' said Claudia, a former prostitute and madam in her late 40's, whom I met in Tepito, Mexico City's vast and lethal ghetto. ''The Europeans not only gather girls but put older women in the same houses,'' she told me. ''They get younger and older women emotionally attached. They're transported together, survive together.'' The traffickers' harvest is innocence. Before young women and girls are taken to the United States, their captors want to obliterate their sexual inexperience while preserving its appearance. For the Eastern European girls, this ''preparation'' generally happens in Ensenada, a seaside tourist town in Baja California, a region in Mexico settled by Russian immigrants, or Tijuana, where Nicole, the Russian woman I met in Los Angeles, was taken along with four other girls when she arrived in Mexico. The young women are typically kept in locked-down, gated villas in groups of 16 to 20. The girls are provided with all-American clothing -- Levi's and baseball caps. They learn to say, ''U.S. citizen.'' They are also sexually brutalized. Nicole told me that the day she arrived in Tijuana, three of her traveling companions were ''tried out'' locally. The education lasts for days and sometimes weeks.


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She explained: ''They would call you out of the basement, and you'd get a bath and you'd get a dress, and if your dress was yellow you were probably going to Disneyland.'' She said they used color coding to make transactions safer for the traffickers and the clients. ''At Disneyland there would be people doing drop-offs and pickups for kids. It's a big open area full of kids, and nobody pays attention to nobody. They would kind of quietly say, 'Go over to that person,' and you would just slip your hand into theirs and say, 'I was looking for you, Daddy.' Then that person would move off with one or two or three of us.''

Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:34 am to
Those who traffic children need to burn in hell.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43193 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:36 am to
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I know this shite happens. Thequestion is frequency and does it justify blanket conclusions about migrants. in general.


Good analogy -

NOW - let's apply that SAME analogy to the RACISM crisis in America.

"I know this shite happens. The question is frequency and does it justify the blanket conclusions about White People in general - and LEOs in particular?"
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61871 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:36 am to
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NOW - let's apply that SAME analogy to the RACISM crisis in America.

"I know this shite happens. The question is frequency and does it justify the blanket conclusions about White People in general - and LEOs in particular?"


Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
2449 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:44 am to
Do you know where they were being trafficked to Denver? I've been through the city many times and it always irked me. Lincoln, Nebraska gave me the same chills for some reason. These two cities just seem, off.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:49 am to
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Do you know where they were being trafficked to Denver? I've been through the city many times and it always irked me. Lincoln, Nebraska gave me the same chills for some reason. These two cities just seem, off.





The I-70/80 corridors
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50581 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:52 am to
Progressive leadership has made it clear who they are siding with.

Progressives do not care. They want power.

If groups like this have to be brought here in order to get them a voting bloc, they will do it.

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