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re: Rand Paul going to Canada for surgery
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:44 pm to Dale51
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:44 pm to Dale51
quote:Certainly looks that way, doesn't it?
Rand is going to a bed and breakfast for treatment??
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:57 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
RIP to Rand Paul, killed by socialized medicine January 2019.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:58 pm to BamaAtl
Why must you lie all the time?
It's weird, cat lady.
It's weird, cat lady.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:00 pm to el Gaucho
quote:
The reason Canadians have average life spans longer than us is because the closest thing they have to culcha and illegals is eskimos
Iroquois doing work too.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:02 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:
Canadians have a higher life expectancy. That's how you judge healthcare systems. What's your measure?
Wrong.
One metric is survival of patients for most common diseases, like heart disease, cancers, etc.
Life expectancy as calculated by WHO is very misleading and has little to do with actual health of the individual populace.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:11 pm to Dale51
It's pointless to argue with this guy. He is clearly only interested in trolling and pointing out exceptions as proof that the rule is incorrect, which is flawed logic.
You rarely hear people argue that the American health care system is perfect as it is currently or that the entire Canadian health care system has no good qualities.
It is indisputable that the American health care system is vastly more innovative than that of Canada. It is indisputable that wait times are longer in Canada. It is indisputable that Canadians are far more likely to seek a procedure in the US than the reverse. However, that being said there are certainly good providers in Canada and some good qualities to their health care model.
But, that doesn't mean that we have to entirely scrap our past/current model in favor of a government health care monopoly. That's like saying that because capitalism has a few blind spots, we should scrap it in favor of socialism (an argument people make all the time.)
You rarely hear people argue that the American health care system is perfect as it is currently or that the entire Canadian health care system has no good qualities.
It is indisputable that the American health care system is vastly more innovative than that of Canada. It is indisputable that wait times are longer in Canada. It is indisputable that Canadians are far more likely to seek a procedure in the US than the reverse. However, that being said there are certainly good providers in Canada and some good qualities to their health care model.
But, that doesn't mean that we have to entirely scrap our past/current model in favor of a government health care monopoly. That's like saying that because capitalism has a few blind spots, we should scrap it in favor of socialism (an argument people make all the time.)
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:12 pm to Dale51
Unreal.
Gets destroyed in his thread, ducks out, and decides to come back with that.
He’s about as prepared as the guest who thought David Webb was white.
Gets destroyed in his thread, ducks out, and decides to come back with that.
He’s about as prepared as the guest who thought David Webb was white.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:20 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:
they get most of its revenue from the Ontario Government.
Which gets all of its funding from deductions from taxpayer checks
There’s even a line item for medical on Canadian paystubs
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:20 pm to Northshore Saint
quote:
Why don't you actually research shite.
Do you know what agreement Shouldice has with the Province? How about how much of their budget consist of public funding (less govt reimbursement)? Do you know Mr. Saint their payer mix and how much of it consist of out-of-pocket income for non-citizens?
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:27 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Once again, you've engaged here without a tenable understanding of the facts. It seems to be a habit. When the topic is medicine though, and you claim some background in the field, that is just sad.
RIP to Rand Paul, killed by socialized medicine
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 1/16/19 at 6:23 am to BamaAtl
quote:ignorance is not bliss.
BamaAtl
RIP to Rand Paul, killed by socialized medicine January 2019.
https://www.meshmedicaldevicenewsdesk.com/rand-paul-chooses-shouldice-clinic-for-hernia-repair/
https://www.meshmedicaldevicenewsdesk.com/dr-shirin-towfigh-hernia-mesh-and-why-we-remove-it/
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