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re: Jerry Sullivan on why Ensminger went max protect instead of spreading it out

Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:27 am to
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:27 am to
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Not if he thinks max protect gives a qb more options than 4 and 5 wide


That philosophy WORKS if you are having success running the ball or defense is sold out to stuff the run.

The offense needs a complete overhaul
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:27 am to
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Oh pride. You don’t know what you’re watching do you. The rams use play action more than anyone.

No
fricking
shite

But unlike Jerry, I can also see they use the spread and the spread doesnt kill your PA capabilities
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 9:31 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:29 am to
Here's another thing. Why does it have to be an NFL offense? Chad Morris doesn't run an NFL offense. Mike Leach doesn't. Jeff Scott doesn't. Couldn't we use a college offense? The I Formation was an NFL offense. Just because we brand something NFL doesn't mean it is the best option against college defenses on our schedule.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67791 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:29 am to
Nah, you’re argument is basically since I cant fix the offense I shouldnt Complain about it.

What the frick did Joe Alleva know about the offense when he canned Les? Did O know more than Cam Cameron when he fires him?

No, but you can usually judge someone’s success by their results, and our results have not been too great.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
41085 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:30 am to
We will keep scoring zero against Alabama if they keep this philosophy.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28753 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:31 am to
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And he is fricking wrong.


Even if he was right, you didn't have a Todd Gurley type of RB (relatively speaking) on this team.

If the two Freshman coming in are the gamebreakers we hope they are, then maybe that philosophy works. But the numbers don't lie, this group wasn't consistently explosive. It seemed like nothing came easy for this year's offense (ex. Burrow's perfect pass to Dillion vs. AU; The outstanding catches by Marshall and Jefferson vs. UGA despite decent coverage; Jefferson making some very tough catches in the endzone for TD; the longest run of the season by a RB being 50 yards and both RB's ranking outside of the top 20 in YPC)
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10885 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:31 am to
Pick and choose what? I compared LSU's 2018 leading freshman WR to Bama's. I picked the numbers from this past year lol. How much more objective can I get?
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:31 am to
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I'm going claim that Jerry Sullivan knows more about football than your little brain ever will. Who the hell are you to question Sullivan


Oh absolutely he does dude. 4 decades he's been coaching - hell Lincoln Riley is only 35 years old period. Ryan day is only 39 years old, just as Clemson's co-ocs are 38 and 39, Kevin Johns is only 43. Josh Heupel is only 40.

Oh my bad - i was just going down the best offensive rankings this year.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:32 am to
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Chad Morris doesn't run an NFL offense. Mike Leach doesn't.


Actually the NFL is starting to shift towards offenses more like these guys.

The Leach ripple can be felt everywhere (e.g. Kingsbury).

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:34 am to
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Oh absolutely he does dude. 4 decades he's been coaching - hell Lincoln Riley is only 35 years old period. Ryan day is only 39 years old, just as Clemson's co-ocs are 38 and 39, Kevin Johns is only 43. Josh Heupel is only 40.

Oh my bad - i was just going down the best offensive rankings this year.




Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:35 am to
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Yeah, the Rams use this because they have ARGUABLY the best running back in the NFL

FIFY
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36594 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:35 am to
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So much for the coaches taking any notes from Clemson.
quote:

So much for the coaches taking any notes from Clemson.


Lessons learned from Clemson?
1) Having a 6-6 QB with a cannon and time to throw is a big plus.
2) Having an athletic, big and fast WR catching anything close is a big plus.
3) Having a solid, athletic OL to pass pro is huge.
4) Having a good running game with a breakaway TB is necessary to keep the D honest. A balanced attack (roughly 50/50) run v pass works.
5) Being aggressive on every down is important as not to get into a rut.
6) Spread the wealth
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
28114 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:35 am to
I'm sure he did not want a say, " gee we had an RT in Traore that was constantly getting beat on inside swim moves and leveling our QB and we thought keeping a TE in to block was better than paying for surgery on Burrow and then again on Brennan later on n the season."
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:37 am to
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Even if he was right, you didn't have a Todd Gurley type of RB (relatively speaking) on this team.

I found that funny as well. Jerry mentioned Gurley and siad "without a running back of his caliber, the Rams offense is going to struggle to run what they do"

Game without Gurley this year they averaged 39.5 pts and 419 yards of offense


Maybe, just maybe, they run a system that doesnt only rely on having elite players Jerry


This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 9:38 am
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10368 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:37 am to
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He said you limit your options when you spread it out. He said that the biggest plays come off of play action and that's why we go max protect - because we feel that play action is the best. Said that's what they do in the NFL.



So 95% of the other college teams are doing it all wrong and LSU is running a new age offense.

Got it!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:38 am to
Or if he thinks you should be playaction heavy when no one respects your run game.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4034 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:40 am to
bullshite, you just have to get the ball out of your hands faster to not let your qb take a pounding if the line is struggling to block(in 4 wide sets or spread formations). The limitation comes when you max protect and only have 2 routes, you can run a plethora of things in max protect but they didn't do it and they played into the defense's hands with just 2 routes to cover and can commit more to the run.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10368 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:41 am to
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Or if he thinks you should be playaction heavy when no one respects your run game and your offensive line can't hold blocks long enough.


Fixed!
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Even if he was right, you didn't have a Todd Gurley type of RB (relatively speaking) on this team.


quote:

"The strength of our offense, in my opinion, right now is our receivers," Ensminger said at a press conference Thursday in which his promotion from tight ends coach to offensive coordinator was announced by head coach Ed Orgeron. "We have depth at wide receiver, which we haven't had in the last couple of years. So I believe this, we have to put three or four wide receivers on the field.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70989 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:43 am to
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Actually he said that the Rams use this philosophy with Gurley, you know the team they studied in the offseason, but please, continue bashing a retired guy for no reason.



so the PA threat is best used when you have the best runningback in the NFL on your team. Damn, breaking news!

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