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re: Expanding CFP Won't Increase Parity

Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:04 pm to
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Yes the sec is socialist. Every conference is...
I'm not so sure why that is so hard to accept


It’s hard to accept because I’d like to not think about how shitty or education system is that so many because can’t distinguish the difference between an economic system where the government controls all the means of production and a business arrangement between organizations
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:10 pm to
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Go to 8.

Tell the P5 conferences your champion gets an auto bid. Let the conference decide how to determine that champion. That gives 60+ schools a cut and dry way to make the playoffs - something that every major sport in the US has except CFB.


Well said.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20830 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:15 pm to
The fact that none of expansion advocates can agree on a universal 8 team format proves that expansion isn’t the magical solution everyone thinks it is.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:17 pm to
Expanding to 8 teams will ensure there will never be a playoff without Alabama in it and it will actually increase the probability of more championships for them.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:19 pm to
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The fact that none of expansion advocates can agree on a universal 8 team format proves that expansion isn’t the magical solution everyone thinks it is.


We still haven’t figured out the best or consistent way to pick 4 teams

Point of going to 8 is to insure the best team isn’t left out and take away the “eye test” by having auto bids
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66461 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:22 pm to
No, it shouldn’t stay at four teams.

Expanding it will increase actual interest and make conference championships mean more. It will also make the post season much more enjoyable as a whole.. less top players sitting out with this new trend.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66461 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:23 pm to
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which will be a terrible thing for the sport.


What on earth is so terrible about it? You don’t like football?
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66461 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:24 pm to
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It’s sad that the CFB season is going to continue to get watered down when the playoffs have been mostly terrible for the last five years


Again, it will make winning a conference championship actually mean more. It won’t water down a damn thing. It will only make it more interesting as a whole.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:27 pm to
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We still haven’t figured out the best or consistent way to pick 4 teams

Point of going to 8 is to insure the best team isn’t left out and take away the “eye test” by having auto bids


This.

Put it at 8, and now we're talking about resumes for teams that haven't done the minimum required to punch their ticket. Right now, it's a guessing game every year. We THINK the SEC champ will get in, but we don't know until the season plays out. That's ludicrous to me.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:32 pm to
While the odds if it happening are very slim the prospect that an undefeated SEC or BIG champion could potentially not make the playoffs is insane.

I like 8 only to insure that each major conference is represented. Without head to head play there is no way to definitively say that one conference champ is better than the other.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 1:33 pm
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30236 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:32 pm to
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Tl;dr: The CFP should stay at 4 teams.


Why is more football a bad thing?

More teams means more opportunities for upsets. Will they happen often? No, but it still gives other teams the opportunity.

I watched a little of the Clemson/ND game. Watched none of the Bama/OU game and will watch 0 seconds of the Bama/Clemson game.

The playoffs are boring as frick and not worth watching.

Know what I will watch though? March Madness and the NCAA baseball tournament, because anything can happen.

Alabama has ruined the 4 team format. Grats to them for being great, but for regular/casual fans, it's detrimental.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5931 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:40 pm to
I would love to see UCF have a shot at Notre Dame. I suppose that is why you prefer just four.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:41 pm to
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While the odds if it happening are very slim the prospect that an undefeated SEC or BIG champion could potentially not make the playoffs is insane.



You cannot say that with certainty in any given season, no. And that's beside the point. The point is we ASSUME those two schools will always have a representative, but that's all it is--an assumption. There is no rule that the B1G or SEC champ has to be there. Hell, the balance of power could conceivably shift and leave both conferences out in a 4 team format.

That's a piss poor way to set parameters for determining a champion in a national sport.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:59 pm to
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top 4 when there are 5 power conferences.


Yes, if the NFL wasn't enough, the NCAA now too can have 7-6 teams in the playoff due to being "conference champion". That's going to be fantasitc. Because they haven't settled it on the field already?

Please, anybody, list a single CFP snub that can't be argued away.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7567 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:03 pm to
Expanding to 8 will only increase the number of beat downs that occur. Most of the Semi's have been mismatches and people want to example that?
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Most of the Semi's have been mismatches and people want to example that?


I’d argue both Ohio State and UGA would have given Clemson a better game
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:21 pm to
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I’d argue both Ohio State and UGA would have given Clemson a better game



The thing is, if it was tOSU or UGA and the outcome was the same then everyone would be saying Oh ND would have given them a better game.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:26 pm to
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The thing is, if it was tOSU or UGA and the outcome was the same then everyone would be saying Oh ND would have given them a better game.


Very true. Which is why we need 8. Eliminate any doubt
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:36 pm to
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Very true. Which is why we need 8. Eliminate any doubt



But then the contention just slides to #9. Granted that doesn't seem as impactful, but the principle is the same. And if you include conference champs then it gets murkier. Washington was ranked #9 in the last CFP poll. So do you force them in the top 8? Who does it push out?

I think an 8 team playoff could definitely work, but not with autobids.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139884 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:37 pm to
It needs to be 24 actually. Run it by the bylaws of the NCAA and stop the stupidity
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