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re: What would’ve happened if Britain had surrendered in WWII?

Posted on 12/18/18 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 8:58 pm to
Was it Patton that said we fought the wrong enemy? Without the western front the Germans could have possibly toppled the soviets before they had a chance to come to full strength. It’s an interesting discussion
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 9:01 pm to
Yes. You can learn more about from the “Killing Patton” book
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 9:04 pm to
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Was it Patton that said we fought the wrong enemy?


Believe Churchill said after they should not have stopped until they reached Moscow after taking Berlin.

Even if Britain had surrendered I think America still is able to invade Europe either through Italy or much a much more difficult route through Spain. Its an interesting topic . Once we got a strong foothold in the Pacific back and basically destroyed the Japs fleet/aircraft carriers their ability to wage any kind of offensive war was gone.
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 4:19 am
Posted by Loaner1231
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 9:06 pm to
Old Adolph was known to disregard treaties. Japan attacks the US and since there are no western Allies to which they will join in fighting the Nazis Hitler never declares war against the states. The good old USA defeats the Japanese. Russia, receiving no material from the US and facing the full might of the Third Reich gets destroyed. The US leaves the Reich to their druthers and Asia is a vastly different continent than what you have today. The “Jewish question” becomes the “Muslim question” and they are liquidated along with all non-Aryans.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 9:07 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 9:21 pm to
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Was it Patton that said we fought the wrong enemy? 


Patton was a brilliant military mind but he was dead wrong about this.

To answer the OP's question, we would eventually have fought Germany, and both sides would have nuclear weapons.
Posted by keakar
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 9:39 pm to
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Was it Patton that said we fought the wrong enemy? Without the western front the Germans could have possibly toppled the soviets before they had a chance to come to full strength. It’s an interesting discussion


yep, instead of ww2 it becomes a war between russia and germany for europe and then the US against japan for the pacific islands.

i think if that came to pass then germany would be spent and not have the resources or will to challenge us, and equally we would have no want or will to argue about a settled war in europe after we beat japan in a very costly pacific war

an even more interesting question is without us, does germany get the A-bomb first? and i think the answer to that is yes.

if we arent in the war, we dont get to steal the rocket and A-bomb technology and the scientist who created it from germany as we did.

and im of the opinion hitler wouldnt give that tech to japan so i dont think we win without invading japan itself.
Posted by HueyP
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 7:51 pm to
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Was it Patton that said we fought the wrong enemy? Without the western front the Germans could have possibly toppled the soviets before they had a chance to come to full strength. It’s an interesting discussion


If you think about it the US greatly aided communist Russia and China in gaining their world footing.
Posted by TigersFan64
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Posted on 12/21/18 at 9:12 pm to
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Was it Patton that said we fought the wrong enemy? Without the western front the Germans could have possibly toppled the soviets before they had a chance to come to full strength


Ah, the political right's not so secret wet dream rears it's head again on a message board - Nazi Germany defeating the Soviets during WWII.
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 9:14 pm
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