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re: Advocates celebrate Baton Rouge smoking ban, release study on its success
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:48 pm to Areddishfish
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:48 pm to Areddishfish
I think it’s messed up that it includes vapers. Vape smells good and a lot of them are good sources of vitamins and essential oils
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:49 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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It's not entirely unlike the personnel laws that dictate who business owners can hire or fire, or serve or not serve. There was a time where those didn't exist and when they were instituted I'm sure folks took issue with it and you guys probably still do, but they were right.
So you think businesses should be told who they can hire/fire as well?
Liberty isn't for everyone. Some people like you love being told what to do by an authority figure and you can't understand why other people don't embrace it.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:49 pm to Areddishfish
The casinos have a provable fact based point. When someone leaves the machines to go do anything else other than sit at the machine (aka go outside and smoke) that is an immediate measurable loss in revenue.
Now I don't have a clue what to do about it because I agree with the smoking ban....but if there is a gripe the casinos have it.
Now I don't have a clue what to do about it because I agree with the smoking ban....but if there is a gripe the casinos have it.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:50 pm to upgrayedd
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So you think businesses should be told who they can hire/fire as well?
Uh, that is absolutely regulated. You even discrimination laws bro?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:56 pm to wildtigercat93
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No this is like if American Airlines offered Fat planes and normal planes and you chose to buy a ticket on the fat plane and complained about all the fat people on your plane
This thread was started about casinos regulating smoking. There were no casinos in Baton Rouge that had any regulations on smoking before this. Now they all do. There wasn’t an option to choose one over the other.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:59 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Uh, that is absolutely regulated. You even discrimination laws bro?
That's not how discrimination laws work, bro. This actually explains why you can't grasp the concept I'm presenting
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:35 pm to upgrayedd
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This actually explains why you can't grasp the concept I'm presenting
You're saying business owners should have the say on everything to do with their business, as long as its legal.
My point was that that is in fact not the case in a number of areas, two of which are hiring/firing and who you provide service to.
That being said, I'm aware of the fact that smoking as an act and cigarettes are both legal.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:48 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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My point was that that is in fact not the case in a number of areas, two of which are hiring/firing and who you provide service to.
You're trying equating civil rights with the government's right to outlaw legal activities. That's an absurd argument.
Are you ok with the government banning meat from restaurants as long as everyone votes on it and agrees it should be banned?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:51 pm to BOSCEAUX
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I have zero issue with a business deciding to ban smoking. I’m of the belief that this an issue the government need not get involved in. Free Market and all that shite.
FYI I’m not a smoker.
I get what you mean, but the govt does this all the time. They force businesses to put in ramps for people in wheelchairs, and a plethora of health related things around food. Cigs are dirty. The people that work there are having to subject themselves too.
I frankly dont care if someone smokes in a bar other than when i'm eating and be respectful about it. I mostly hate waking up smiling like it in my hair. But that kind of thing is on me for going to a place that does it.
All i'm saying is that smokers tend to bethe ones that screwed themselves by many being white trash pricks about it because....its F-ing 'merika. Well smokers f-ing lost the battle, and they need to live with it. Not be a bunch of whiny bitches like the accuse the non-smokers from being.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:14 pm to TOSOV
As long as I’m not breathing, I don’t really mind.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:21 pm to upgrayedd
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Are you ok with the government banning meat from restaurants as long as everyone votes on it and agrees it should be banned?
You eating meat in the same establishment as me doesn't impact my health. You smoking in the same establishment as me does.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:24 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Since the OT loves to talk about what is and isn't trashy, smoking is about the trashiest habit, second to dipping.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:27 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
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smoking is about the trashiest habit, second to dipping
My dad used to keep a spittoon on his desk in the office at our house. He loved his Copenhagen
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:36 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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You eating meat in the same establishment as me doesn't impact my health. You smoking in the same establishment as me does.
Answer the question. Are you ok with it?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:51 pm to upgrayedd
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Answer the question. Are you ok with it?
I might be ok with it. Why are we banning meat? Have we found out that you eating it will cause my arteries to block? If so, yes, I would probably be ok with it.
Does that satisfy you or do you want to keep pushing this apple and orange comparison?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:55 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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I might be ok with it. Why are we banning meat? Have we found out that you eating it will cause my arteries to block? If so, yes, I would probably be ok with it.
Does that satisfy you or do you want to keep pushing this apple and orange comparison?
It's apples to apples. You're ok with government telling private businesses that they can't engage in or allow their customers to engage in perfectly legal activities. Thanks for letting us know how much you hate liberty
It's ok, it's not for everyone.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:15 pm to upgrayedd
I'm ok with bars being free to set their own rules on smoking. However, I suspect that the huge majority of places impacted by these bans would not change their rules back even if given the chance.
Everyone was already moving in the direction of the bans, and I suspect the huge majority of people, including plenty who may have opposed such bans at the outset, prefer the new reality of smoke-free bars/restaurants.
Everyone was already moving in the direction of the bans, and I suspect the huge majority of people, including plenty who may have opposed such bans at the outset, prefer the new reality of smoke-free bars/restaurants.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:23 pm to deltaland
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Because a lot more people enjoy smoking while drinking than do that smoke regularly.
They can stay home and do both.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:24 pm to Pettifogger
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Everyone was already moving in the direction of the bans, and I suspect the huge majority of people, including plenty who may have opposed such bans at the outset, prefer the new reality of smoke-free bars/restaurants.
Owners that don't want smoke in their business can ban smoking. The government telling them they have to is my issue.
We also haven't addressed the point that places like cigar bars are exempt from these laws so the government is also picking winners and losers with this legislation.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:28 pm to upgrayedd
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It's apples to apples.
Actually it's fundamentally different. One activity affects the others around the person doing it, the other does not. That is the most important part of it, and what you're failing to acknowledge.
I don't hate liberty, I just love my health too much to let smokers affect it. 'Murica
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 8:29 pm
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