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re: NCAA rules lesbian D1 athlete can keep Gofundme donations
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:06 am to tigerfoot
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:06 am to tigerfoot
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Ashley again did not have a change of life event.
Oh, so we only care about athletes when they suddenly become "poor."
If they're poor from birth, frick'em.
I know that may not be what you're saying. But a lawyer could put those words in the NCAA's mouth in a courtroom with ease.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 10:08 am
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:10 am to sec13rowBBseat28
quote:possibly.
xpect to see MANY college athletes come out, get disowned by their parents, claim hardship, and demand to be allowed a gofundme.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:16 am to UGATiger26
I dont know that.
The girl was an NCAA athlete. The parents shut down her ability to live, took the plates off her car, removed her ability to buy things and put her in a position to stop her education or get help. The NCAA decided to allow the athlete to receive some support.
It seems everyone's argument is that everyone else deserves support, but her. I dont know how many cases the NCAA has heard regarding these type matters. And again, this will never affect an athlete that anyone on this board gives a single damn about as it relates to the competitive nature of college football and basketball. No one gives a shite about anything else. Like 5 college baseball teams even break even.
The girl was an NCAA athlete. The parents shut down her ability to live, took the plates off her car, removed her ability to buy things and put her in a position to stop her education or get help. The NCAA decided to allow the athlete to receive some support.
It seems everyone's argument is that everyone else deserves support, but her. I dont know how many cases the NCAA has heard regarding these type matters. And again, this will never affect an athlete that anyone on this board gives a single damn about as it relates to the competitive nature of college football and basketball. No one gives a shite about anything else. Like 5 college baseball teams even break even.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:30 am to tigerfoot
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It seems everyone's argument is that everyone else deserves support, but her.
Not the argument. At least not from me.
My argument is that by giving her the green light, they have opened the doors for countless other situations in which a student-athlete is not receiving parental support.
I'm not saying she doesn't deserve support. I'm saying that if she gets to do it, LOTS of other athletes should have valid situations as well.
It will be interesting to see what the NCAA does and how quickly a lawsuit is brought against them by an athlete who was denied.
The additional problem I see is the more prevalent use of these private fundraising platforms for situations like these involving athletes.
It is against the law for a scholarship fund to be set up by a university with the intent of benefiting only one specific student. And for good reason. It would essentially be a money-laundering apparatus with tax-deduction benefits for donors to pay certain students (athletes, for example). GoFundMe is basically a way to get around that.
As someone who previously worked in the public fundraising world, I can tell you this has people concerned. A public university (not sure about private) has no standing to monitor a student's personal bank account. So if a student is receiving money outside of the university's student financial aid processes, there is no way to regulate that money. The student could use it for whatever they want. Honestly, that is pretty much how scholarship money is already used. After balances are paid for tuition and fees, the student typically gets the rest in cash. Trust me, schools aren't monitoring students to ensure they are using scholarship money on legitimate living and academic expenses.
So an athlete suddenly having $100,000 in cash donated to them makes me raise my eyebrows.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 10:45 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:33 am to tigerfoot
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It seems everyone's argument is that everyone else deserves support, but her.
You seem to be the only one repeating this ad nauseum.
Like others, my problem is with the process and the problems it brings, the precedent it sets, and the relative ease with which the process could be exploited.
But yea, keep trying to imply we're bigots or something. It doesn't make it right.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:50 am to tigerfoot
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The parents shut down her ability to live
Wow the soyboy strong with this one. You sound like a teenage girl
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:55 am to FalseProphet
quote:No, there have been about a dozen, but "what abouts" in this thread.
You seem to be the only one repeating this ad nauseum.
quote:What are these problems, and have they existed in the past?
my problem is with the process and the problems it brings
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:56 am to bamafan1001
quote:I can promise you that this is not the tact you would want to take with me. But when you have nothing else, namely life experiences, this is what you go to.
Wow the soyboy strong with this one. You sound like a teenage girl
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:08 am to UGATiger26
quote:I have no reason to doubt you, so if this is true and there is no oversight at all then this is dumb to allow donations.
As someone who previously worked in the public fundraising world, I can tell you this has people concerned. A public university (not sure about private) has no standing to monitor a student's personal bank account. So if a student is receiving money outside of the university's student financial aid processes, there is no way to regulate that money. The student could use it for whatever they want. Honestly, that is pretty much how scholarship money is already used. After balances are paid for tuition and fees, the student typically gets the rest in cash. Trust me, schools aren't monitoring students to ensure they are using scholarship money on legitimate living and academic expenses.
If they cant oversee the accounts what is stopping the donations now?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:14 am to tigerfoot
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If they cant oversee the accounts what is stopping the donations now?
How do you mean?
What is stopping people from donating to scholarship funds in general?
Or what is stopping GoFundMe donations to students?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:00 pm to UGATiger26
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And I also at your $5000/year stipend "gotcha" argument. The poverty line for an individual right now is $12,140. Even if you factor in free room and board and free meals, you're probably not getting much higher above that line. It really wouldn't be that difficult to argue that $5,000/year is inadequate for an athlete who otherwise doesn't have any other money to their name (and who isn't allowed to have a job).
You actually believe that this is all the compensation that D1 athletes receive?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:12 pm to Swagga
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this a can of worms for the NCAA.
For real
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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As someone with two children, I’ve never understood disowning your kids because you found out they were gay.
I will disown any of my children if they become a liberal. I'm not supporting a mentally ill person.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:44 pm to Strannix
So she can have strangers randomly donate money to her out of the goodness of their hearts but a football player can’t have his YouTube Chanel monitized? Yeah that seems fair
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:53 pm to Strannix
quote:Wow. Did he do the tearing of the collar with the misery and the disowning, like in The Jazz Singer?
After her parents learned she has a girlfriend, Emily Scheck, 19, a college sophomore and Division I athlete, was disowned by them in August, right before the start of the school year.
I wonder if they know that guy was a queer too.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:55 pm to tigerfoot
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It seems everyone's argument is that everyone else deserves support, but her.
Omg... go get your estrogen checked!
Nobody is saying that. What we are saying is that they are setting up slush funds. How many MILLIONS do you think boosters are willing to shell out on a recruit who "is in need"?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:57 pm to Strannix
Some athlete needs to say he was disowned by his parents for voting for Trump and set up a GoFundMe.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:12 pm to Strannix
2,1,3
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:51 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Why me? you are the one with an emotional OMG argument about a situation that will never happen.
Omg... go get your estrogen checked!
quote:For a college cross country runner? I doubt a single MILLION (I capitalized it to show all my emotion) Or are you getting all emotional talking about full scholarship, full ride football players? Because I doubt the NCAA will view any of them in a financial hardship without some type of personal medical tragedy or something.
many MILLIONS do you think boosters are willing to shell out on a recruit who "is in need"?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:53 pm to tigerfoot
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Because I doubt the NCAA will view any of them in a financial hardship without some type of personal medical tragedy or something.
Maybe, but I have a feeling this will be tested. All it takes is for someone to claim to be gay and be kicked out of their home.
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