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re: Why is everybody so fat?
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:42 am to tigerpawl
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:42 am to tigerpawl
Health was traded for convenience...
Eat a natural, ancestral diet (should mainly be natural fats, protein sources, and plant based sources (fruits/veggies/greens))
Limit processed crap...
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 10:43 am
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:42 am to tigerpawl
Because of buffets and all you can eat joints.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:43 am to tigerpawl
The 7-11 THEORY.
Back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s everyone was lean. One of the main reasons was that portions were reasonable. Look at a coke. A small coke was 6 1/2 oz in the bottle. A medium fountain coke at McDonald's was 12 oz.
And then along came THE BIG GULP. 7-11's monster fountain drink...a 32 oz behemoth that was more novelty than a serious portion. BUT, it took off. People were buying it...it was a challenge to drink one. I remember people asking, " Can you ever drink a whole Big Gulp?"
Madison Avenue paid attention. Consumers were open to buying bigger portions. Why try to sell two small bags of chips when you can sell one BIG bag? Restaurants joined in...portion sizes grew like never before. Grocery stores followed suit with how they marketed portions.
Of course, the natural progression was cheaper, fattier foods, but if you want to look at when this all started....look no further than the mid-late 70's and that fricking BIG GULP.
Back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s everyone was lean. One of the main reasons was that portions were reasonable. Look at a coke. A small coke was 6 1/2 oz in the bottle. A medium fountain coke at McDonald's was 12 oz.
And then along came THE BIG GULP. 7-11's monster fountain drink...a 32 oz behemoth that was more novelty than a serious portion. BUT, it took off. People were buying it...it was a challenge to drink one. I remember people asking, " Can you ever drink a whole Big Gulp?"
Madison Avenue paid attention. Consumers were open to buying bigger portions. Why try to sell two small bags of chips when you can sell one BIG bag? Restaurants joined in...portion sizes grew like never before. Grocery stores followed suit with how they marketed portions.
Of course, the natural progression was cheaper, fattier foods, but if you want to look at when this all started....look no further than the mid-late 70's and that fricking BIG GULP.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:43 am to dawgsjlw
quote:
breads/pasta/whole grains as being 'healthy' for you
Except for the fact that Italians are not fat and this is basically all they eat.
Its simply eating too much and not exercising enough. Its also suburban life. Ever go to a big city like Chicago or New York, they all walk considerable more than your average suburban person. You walk to your garage, drive to your office or store, park in front 50 feet away, and walk in. Rinse repeat.
If Americans simply walked 10,000 steps or whatever amount a day like most of the world we wouldn't be nearly as fat. Our food is bad, but our lack of daily movement is what's really bad.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:46 am to JumpingTheShark
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Oh ok my bad I changed my mind now
Boneless skinless chicken breast or thighs from Sam's are $.99/pound. 1 service of vegetables can be had for less than $1.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:47 am to tigerpawl
Lack of exercise
Lack of cooking at home compared to convenience (pops prepackaged BS in microwave)
Too busy to eat good. Picks up fast food for kids to live on after soccer practice. This is those kid’s reference to food growing up, and it’s passed down to future generations. Not mom in the kitchen cooking dinner, but pulling up to a fast food joint to get dinner.
Food industry in general plays upon human weaknesses in quick, fast, and prepackaged laziness. Look in the average grocery store. It’s dominated by prepackaged shite in the center aisles, with 75% of it containing HFCS and preservatives you don’t need when you shop and cook from the outside walls of the grocery store.
In short, it’s bad eating habits that have crept their way into the American lifestyle, and little exercise. We’re too busy chasing the dollar, and too busy to eat well, and the piss poor choices out there in the market say it’s not changing in some places like it is in other places that tend to get it more. Those cities dominated in chain shite are most often those that have more fat issues than those who eat better, and have places geared to eating better.
Every bit of this is compounded with the ridiculous portion sizes we have become accustomed to.
However, if we were working this shite off, it would be much less of an issue, but by and large, as a population, we are not.
Lack of cooking at home compared to convenience (pops prepackaged BS in microwave)
Too busy to eat good. Picks up fast food for kids to live on after soccer practice. This is those kid’s reference to food growing up, and it’s passed down to future generations. Not mom in the kitchen cooking dinner, but pulling up to a fast food joint to get dinner.
Food industry in general plays upon human weaknesses in quick, fast, and prepackaged laziness. Look in the average grocery store. It’s dominated by prepackaged shite in the center aisles, with 75% of it containing HFCS and preservatives you don’t need when you shop and cook from the outside walls of the grocery store.
In short, it’s bad eating habits that have crept their way into the American lifestyle, and little exercise. We’re too busy chasing the dollar, and too busy to eat well, and the piss poor choices out there in the market say it’s not changing in some places like it is in other places that tend to get it more. Those cities dominated in chain shite are most often those that have more fat issues than those who eat better, and have places geared to eating better.
Every bit of this is compounded with the ridiculous portion sizes we have become accustomed to.
However, if we were working this shite off, it would be much less of an issue, but by and large, as a population, we are not.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 10:57 am
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:50 am to tigerpawl
quote:
Used to not be this way.
- Work didnt infringe on personal life to the extent it does now
- People lived closer to their jobs, so there was more incentive to walk
- Women didn’t work so they actually prepared fairly well balanced meals
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:51 am to Mingo Was His NameO
That’s assuming that these fat people are cooking, which they definitely aren’t. They eat out a lot for ease.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:54 am to JumpingTheShark
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That’s assuming that these fat people are cooking, which they definitely aren’t. They eat out a lot for ease
I don't disagree, but he said it was cheaper to eat unhealthy, which is not true. You can make a meal is 15-20 minutes that's actually healthy and costs less than half what McDonald's costs.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:55 am to tigerpawl
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Why is everybody so fat?
Today, at this moment in time, it is the McRib. That damn thing is so delicious. And the 2 for $5 paired with free drink and fries from the McD app is definitely making me fat.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:56 am to tigerpawl
interestingly i saw fewer than a dozen fatasses in boston & providence over 4 days this weekend. clearly its a southern/midwestern epidemic but the NE and the Rockies/PNW appear to have their shite together
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:57 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Unhealthy food is cheaper
Nope
You're getting downvoted for this but you're absolutely right. This myth has been shot down a million times. For the price of a double Whopper combo meal, I can buy an entire chicken, bag of rice and head of broccoli.
An entire seedless watermelon costs less than bag of Doritos. People are fat because they make bad choices. Deep down, every fat person on the planet knows this too.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:00 am to Barrister
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THE BIG GULP
saw a fatass filling up one of these at the soda fountain at my biscuit/coffee stop this morning
100 oz of sugar water & caffeine...drink up!
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:01 am to ClientNumber9
quote:
People are fat because they make bad choices.
marketing + convenience + salt/fat + lazy = obese
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:03 am to cgrand
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salt/fat
Nothing wrong with either of these. More like sugar/carbs
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:05 am to tigerpawl
It's pretty simple.
People are eating a lot more fast food because it's easier to just stop by somewhere to pick up dinner than it is to come home and cook something while helping the kids with homework, getting them taken care of, while also taking care of things around the house.
But I don't think that's the main reason. I think a lot more people have bad eating habits than people use to have. When it came to eating, my parents had a certain philosophy "you don't eat when you are hungry, you eat to keep from getting hungry". Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
You eat a good breakfast (not a big breakfast, but good breakfast), don't wait to noon to eat lunch. The hungrier you are, the more you eat. If you go to lunch when you are in the "I am not all that hungry but I can eat something" phase, you can eat a sandwich, chips, and something else and you are good.
Eat a snack between 2-3PM so that you are not starving by the time you get home. Don't wait til later to eat dinner. It's not really good to eat soon before going to sleep so eat dinner around 6PM.. 7PM...
And stop eating when you are full, not when you have cleaned your plate.
How many people are skipping breakfast or grabbing something unhealthy to eat on the way to work?
How many people wait til 1-2PM to eat lunch then eat dinner later because you still full from lunch so you get everything you have to do done, eat then go to bed?
All of that plays a factor.
People are eating a lot more fast food because it's easier to just stop by somewhere to pick up dinner than it is to come home and cook something while helping the kids with homework, getting them taken care of, while also taking care of things around the house.
But I don't think that's the main reason. I think a lot more people have bad eating habits than people use to have. When it came to eating, my parents had a certain philosophy "you don't eat when you are hungry, you eat to keep from getting hungry". Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
You eat a good breakfast (not a big breakfast, but good breakfast), don't wait to noon to eat lunch. The hungrier you are, the more you eat. If you go to lunch when you are in the "I am not all that hungry but I can eat something" phase, you can eat a sandwich, chips, and something else and you are good.
Eat a snack between 2-3PM so that you are not starving by the time you get home. Don't wait til later to eat dinner. It's not really good to eat soon before going to sleep so eat dinner around 6PM.. 7PM...
And stop eating when you are full, not when you have cleaned your plate.
How many people are skipping breakfast or grabbing something unhealthy to eat on the way to work?
How many people wait til 1-2PM to eat lunch then eat dinner later because you still full from lunch so you get everything you have to do done, eat then go to bed?
All of that plays a factor.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:06 am to Mingo Was His NameO
but its the salt & fat that make processed savory foods quite nearly addictive to the soft-headed. our bodies are hard-wired to seek them out and gorge when available
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:06 am to ThinePreparedAni
quote:I've often said we need to revert back to the "caveman" days. Hunter-gatherers. Long stretches before you eat again. And throw away the clock. Why is it we're locked into a regulated eating schedule. I think the simple answer is to live with at least a little hunger pain between meals. You're not going to die, for Christ sake. Eat only when you're hungry. When you're not hungry anymore, stop eating!!!
Eat a natural, ancestral diet
Here's the long and the short of it: there's a huge lack of self-discipline today.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:07 am to OweO
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OweO
Per usual, you don't know what the frick you're talking about.
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