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Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:52 am to Buda
Ok here we go
1. Every play Giles is on the field is like being down a man
2. Too many long developing passing plays.
3. We ran 1 RB screen on a predictable down.
4. The PA play inside out 5
5. The QB draw where we didn’t actually spread out the defense. Drives me crazy. If you wanna run The QB put 5 wide and put them as far out as possible.
1. Every play Giles is on the field is like being down a man
2. Too many long developing passing plays.
3. We ran 1 RB screen on a predictable down.
4. The PA play inside out 5
5. The QB draw where we didn’t actually spread out the defense. Drives me crazy. If you wanna run The QB put 5 wide and put them as far out as possible.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:57 am to Buda
I think it’s a lack of top tier recruiting on the O-line more than it was the scheme. Everyone is quick to blame O but forgets that he is only 2 years into this program. He saw the need for better line play and recruited heavily for line men and got some good ones. Bama was rushing 3 guys and the beat our line. So here is what I have.
Short term
1. Go with more 4-5 wide sets with quick read passes and screens. Spread out the front 7 and hope your line blocks
2. Have more motion and play action off the motion. Keep the defense guessing. I liked what Canada did against bama. I would just go with more spread(that’s how you beat bama) formations.
3. Use the big bodied receivers more frequently. Put those big bodies in the slot and motion them out wide to the opposite side of the field. This will create mismatches. I will take a guy that’s 6’6” of a guy that’s 6 flat. But LSU doesn’t do that for some reason.
4. More designed QB runs/options/rpo’s
Long term
1. Recruit and develope better O lineman
2. Recruit a really good spread QB who not necessarily is run first but can make plays with his legs
3. Scheme with a pass happy offense. 30-40 passes a game. Passing is the only way to beta bama. Ole Miss and Clemson proved this
Short term
1. Go with more 4-5 wide sets with quick read passes and screens. Spread out the front 7 and hope your line blocks
2. Have more motion and play action off the motion. Keep the defense guessing. I liked what Canada did against bama. I would just go with more spread(that’s how you beat bama) formations.
3. Use the big bodied receivers more frequently. Put those big bodies in the slot and motion them out wide to the opposite side of the field. This will create mismatches. I will take a guy that’s 6’6” of a guy that’s 6 flat. But LSU doesn’t do that for some reason.
4. More designed QB runs/options/rpo’s
Long term
1. Recruit and develope better O lineman
2. Recruit a really good spread QB who not necessarily is run first but can make plays with his legs
3. Scheme with a pass happy offense. 30-40 passes a game. Passing is the only way to beta bama. Ole Miss and Clemson proved this
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:58 am to SammyTiger
How about this: we can't run the ball. At all. Incomplete pass on first down, 2nd and 10. Unimaginitive run play on second down loses a yard (or no gain). 3rd and long that forces a long developing play that we can't block for. I remember after that 1st down going "they're going to run it and we'll be stuck with a long 3rd down", so you know Saban sniffed that out right away.
All night long.
All night long.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:59 am to Buda
He used the word “cogent”, yall. He must be pretty smart.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 11:00 am
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:00 am to Buda
quote:
Serious question for all the "it's Emsminger/scheme" people
LSU was dominated on offense. There are two major reasons for it:
1. The LSU OL was significantly beaten on pretty much every play. This is a talent issue (everyone is pointing to that). But, there is another factor that greatly contributed to it...
2. Alabama spent the extra week dissecting and game planning specifically for LSU and was able to do that to a level that you wouldn't normally see with a week to week game. Their ability to do this is unmatched in college football. I'm certain after watching that game that our tendencies made the job for our OL much harder.
Think back to Alabama's first drive. Our defense had trouble lining up pre snap. This was because Alabama was breaking tendencies. To LSU's credit, it was able to weather that storm and keep Alabama off the scoreboard.
LSU offered none of that. We were never able to run plays that kept Alabama off balance. Instead, the Alabama defense was keyed in to the majority of plays.
When that happens, you put your players in a tough position. And, when you aren't overly talented, it turns into domination.
LSU needs more self scouting and a diverse enough playbook to break tendencies while still being efficient.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:01 am to Buda
Is this some sort of gotcha? None of us are football coaches, 95% of the rant cant tell you a defensive coverage.
But we can all see 0 on the scoreboard. Again. We can all scroll to the last page of offensive rankings too.
But we can all see 0 on the scoreboard. Again. We can all scroll to the last page of offensive rankings too.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:02 am to moneyg
quote:
LSU was dominated on offense. There are two major reasons for it: 1. The LSU OL was significantly beaten on pretty much every play. This is a talent issue (everyone is pointing to that). But, there is another factor that greatly contributed to it... 2. Alabama spent the extra week dissecting and game planning specifically for LSU and was able to do that to a level that you wouldn't normally see with a week to week game. Their ability to do this is unmatched in college football. I'm certain after watching that game that our tendencies made the job for our OL much harder. Think back to Alabama's first drive. Our defense had trouble lining up pre snap. This was because Alabama was breaking tendencies. To LSU's credit, it was able to weather that storm and keep Alabama off the scoreboard. LSU offered none of that. We were never able to run plays that kept Alabama off balance. Instead, the Alabama defense was keyed in to the majority of plays. When that happens, you put your players in a tough position. And, when you aren't overly talented, it turns into domination. LSU needs more self scouting and a diverse enough playbook to break tendencies while still being efficient.
This is a great analysis and what drives some of us the most nuts- Stop being so damn predictable year in and year out!
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:11 am to moneyg
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2. Alabama spent the extra week dissecting and game planning specifically for LSU and was able to do that to a level that you wouldn't normally see with a week to week game. Their ability to do this is unmatched in college football. I'm certain after watching that game that our tendencies made the job for our OL much harder.
I agree. We actually threw out part of our offense by dropping RPO. I think we need to do away with the bye before Bama because if we refuse to scheme Bama which was pretty damn obvious we are just making it easier for them to beat us.
Before he lost his nerve towards the end of his tenure, Les would throw in wrinkles for Bama.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:16 am to Mudminnow
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If you go back to last year. Canada had jet sweeps, quick slants to Chark all things to slow down an aggressive line.
E did nothing.
This.
Our O-line was outmatched and Burrow was under pressure all game long. So why the hell is Ensminger calling so many pass plays with deep drop backs with routes that take more time to develop than the pass protection was able to give Burrow? The play action isn't fooling anyone when you have no run game and all its doing is getting Burrow hit as soon as he turns around.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:29 am to Purplehaze44
Glad I'm not the only one noticing the coaching staff (especially Tommie Robinson) failed with personnel substitutions on the field. Why in the hell are we running Nick sideline to sideline when Clyde is obviously better for those situations?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:38 am to Buda
Amazing how about 90% of the posters in this crowd cannot provide one specific thing that was wrong with the scheme!
How do you know it's the scheme - you are utterly CLUELESS!
Saying "score more" or repeating the statistics provides no actual insight and demonstrates the depths of your ignorance.
I have never given most posters on this board any credit for knowing the first thing about actual football. But this "it's the scheme" crowd is the most CLUELESS of all time.
How do you know it's the scheme - you are utterly CLUELESS!
Saying "score more" or repeating the statistics provides no actual insight and demonstrates the depths of your ignorance.
I have never given most posters on this board any credit for knowing the first thing about actual football. But this "it's the scheme" crowd is the most CLUELESS of all time.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:45 am to Buda
quote:
How do you know it's the scheme - you are utterly CLUELESS!
Don't be stupid. You had quite a few responses that gave specifics. Address those. Why did we actually reduce offensive options like RPO. If A&M hurt Bama by running Mond, why did we take that option away from Burrow? What adjustments did you see the OC make? What did we do different when the scheme wasn't working?
How bout you answer these questions. Thanks in advance.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:55 am to Buda
Why would you want someone to list options on this board that probably would work. Fans from various schools read these comments plus coaches and players. That wouldn’t be intelligent to give ideas on how to beat a team so they can prepare for something they never thought about. Please post less.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:09 pm to Buda
I don’t have any answers. I do have some observations. Wonder boy holds the ball too damn long, still locks onto a receiver, takes too long to make a decision, no pocket presence at all. If he is so much better than MB, the future is very dim as usual for that position.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:09 pm to Heresthetruth
quote:
I think it’s a lack of top tier recruiting on the O-line more than it was the scheme. Everyone is quick to blame O but forgets that he is only 2 years into this program. He saw the need for better line play and recruited heavily for line men and got some good ones. Bama was rushing 3 guys and the beat our line. So here is what I have.
I don't think a lot of people are blaming Coach O, I just think they want SE gone. Not a lot of people wanted him in the first place. It kind makes O considerably closer to becoming another Les Miles. Very stubborn and prideful of his decisions. Time to swallow pride. I know our o-line stinks, but you can scheme around that. I thought we had an NFL coach working with the o-line?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:14 pm to Buda
Arky scored 31 against Bama.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:17 pm to BilJ
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Ahh the ‘’could you do better argument?”
Unquestionably the most asinine "argument" ever put forth on a message board in response to criticism of a coach.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:33 pm to Buda
Buda, is that an alter for Steve. You have to make it about the X’s and the O’s if you don’t have the Jimmy’s and the Joe’s.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:38 pm to Buda
Adding in new wrinkles in the offense during the season would be helpful. We run the same 10 plays. Saban has two weeks to come up with a scheme to stop these 10 plays.
We don't run misdirection or draw plays. We can't execute basic screen passes.
We don't utilize our receivers like we should. Where was Marshall? Chase?
Oh and how bout not calling a drop back pass inside the fricking 10 yard line when your OLine is struggling.
We don't run misdirection or draw plays. We can't execute basic screen passes.
We don't utilize our receivers like we should. Where was Marshall? Chase?
Oh and how bout not calling a drop back pass inside the fricking 10 yard line when your OLine is struggling.
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