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Bama dominance explained

Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:24 am
Posted by stealthy1
Member since Aug 2007
558 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:24 am
Bama dominance explained (sorry, long read)

I had the opportunity to meet Saban's accountant at a business function earlier this year, and got a little insight into why Alabama football has become such a dominant force.

The most important thing to understand is that, just like Saban's admonition to focus on the next play and ignore the scoreboard, success on the football field is just a by-product of the larger process he has in place. The real goal is the establishment and maintenance of a sustainable and perpetual economic engine. This engine is at the heart of everything they do, because the returns to the university are, in a word, enormous.

Of course, it starts with a control and detail obsessed football mastermind workaholic coach who eats, sleeps and breathes the game and every aspect of how to win it. The guy is a machine. Every possible detail is micromanaged, and the resources available to allow coach to implement his program are essentially unlimited.

Directly and indirectly, revenues generated are in the hundreds of millions and well beyond, not only in direct football-related income, but in tuition, research grants, endowments, state building projects, and private donations. The result has been the unprecedented growth of the UofA, as more and more money has become available for facilities and the best educators to staff them.

All of this effort creates a more highly educated workforce (I know, this is Alabama, so "highly educated" is a relative term) to feed the demand for people created by large manufacturing concerns, businesses of all types, and the Huntsville research park complex, which in a few years is poised to become the largest city in Alabama.

All of this public and private investment starts with the success on the football field that drives interest in the State of Alabama and its flagship university.

The formula for football success is pretty straightforward. The coach controls every aspect of the program. They can afford to hire the best available staff, and have the best facilities. They exploit the rules-making system to the maximum extent possible (i.e., let's look for things that there are no rules against, and let's bend existing rules as far as possible). With each successive championship, more and more 4 and 5-star players are recruited into the system, drawn by the promise of the exposure they will get to the NFL, the ability to play for a program with so many NFL connections, and the opportunity to play for arguably the best coach in the history of college football. And the women aren't bad looking, either.

Eventually, after multiple #1 recruiting classes, the team becomes 3-deep with the best 4 and 5 star players in the country, who benefit from the best possible coaching, facilities and support, resulting in a juggernaut on the field that more often than not, simply cannot be beaten due to the combination of coaching, preparation, game management and depth.

At this point, the operational model of the enterprise has become self-perpetuating, and its continued success is inevitable unless the management philosophy changes.

All this truly makes Alabama a different animal, and those who bemoan our inability to prevail on the football field really have no understanding of what we, and the rest of the college football world, are up against. Honestly, I think this "unfair advantage", as Penske Racing first defined the term, is unique right now in the world of sports at any level.

In all fairness, we come closer than most, and it's a testimony to our players that we are able to compete with Bama most years.

But make no mistake, their system is hitting on all cylinders, and the vision Nick Saban has had for decades about the ultimate college football program has been fully realized, and as long as he is at the helm, everyone else will be at a disadvantage.

The tragedy in all this of course is we had him for awhile, but since Louisiana government is always trying to do things on the cheap (and Nick had happy feet anyway) we couldn't hold onto him, and visionaries that we are, we didn't grasp the end game and what it represented. That he ended up at Alabama of all places raises the bitterness of his success to an entirely different level. If he were anywhere other than the SEC West, his success wouldn't necessarily mean our failure, but like it or not, any future success LSU will have is directly tied to our ability to beat the Alabama system, and while not impossible, it's an extremely tough proposition.

The good news is Nick won't be around forever. It remains to be seen if anyone else can duplicate his success, because he is the genius that designed the system and keeps it rolling, and if anyone else could do it, they would be doing it already. So there is hope.

Dominance at this level in sport is rare. The Yankees of Ruth, Gehrig and DiMaggio. The Bulls with Jordan. The Packers under Lombardi, the 49ers under Walsh, UCLA under Wooden, and Bear Bryant of course. These are all legendary programs led by great coaches. But since The Bear retired almost 40 years ago, no one in major college sport has achieved domination on this level.

Unfortunately, this is the hand we've been dealt, and I know we'll sure as hell keep trying to win. We have to exhibit resilience in the face of adversity (I'm sure I've heard that somewhere before...), and overcome the football team that at its core is the instrument of a colossal business enterprise.

So let's back our boys. Bring on Ar-kansas, Rice and A&M, and let's finish strong at 11-2 with a nice bowl.

Not a perfect season, but not bad either, and still going in the right direction.

Go Tigers..!!
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33167 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:25 am to
I can sum that up in a single statement:

Recruit the best talent in the land....
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21942 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:26 am to
HGH, roids, Chargers, REC, and carte blanche from NCAA/Emmert and ESPN/media

THE PROCESS!!!
Posted by stealthy1
Member since Aug 2007
558 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:29 am to
True, but that's like saying all you need to win the Indy 500 is the fastest car. How do you get there when you can't win unless you have the best players, and you can't get the best players unless you win?

It takes time. Sabin had been at it for years, and finally has the critical mass place to produce sustained success.

I hate Alabama.

This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 9:31 am
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15047 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:35 am to
Excellent summation of "the process" and the fact that most of an entire state has achieved buy-in.
Posted by GCTigerforLife
Member since Nov 2015
114 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:35 am to
Spot on with your assessment. Saban's era is Tideland will dominate the SEC. The imbalance of quality players on his squad overmatches every opponent. The quality of coaching is unmatched. Maybe He will retire one of these years.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
2182 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:44 am to
Agree with all this except that LSU had any chance to keep Saban. We didn't. He was eventually going to leave.

He had to learn that the NFL he left in 1995 wasn't the same in 2005. He had to learn that the parity rules worked against his vision there.

He became a better coach by going to the NFL.

GEAUX TIGERS.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29488 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:52 am to
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO GETS IT!
I posted something months back about the football program’s impact on university, local and state economics and incoming ACT/SAT scores. You nailed it all
Thank You!
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16676 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:58 am to
Very good analysis. The other thing......he’s just a very good football coach. Never mind his demeanor. NFL hungry kids are able to accept his cult like intensity. He can scheme as well as anyone ever. All we heard about this year was his offense. No doubt he made it his mission to have that defense dominate us like it was 2012.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
1812 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:02 am to
quote:

HGH, roids, Chargers, REC, and carte blanche from NCAA/Emmert and ESPN/media



Right here. If you want to compete with them it takes more than simply recruit the best. You have to match them on admission standards, drug screening (if any), outside support (read this however you like), etc.

Success of college football has more to do with recruiting and retaining with every possible edge you can find over elaborate schemes and coaching (although these are important).
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Maybe ( Saban) will retire one day



Then BAMA WILL JUST HIRE CLEMSON coach, who is a Bama alumnus ,and it all starts over again.......

La. Needs to elect a governor who favors LSU athletics and not threaten to weakened it like Bel Edwards.....

Need a school President who pushes hiring only the best coaches in US....

La. Legislators need to give lifetime tax breaks to all Highschool coaches who prevent players from goin to Bama and to parents who have children on LSU football team...

Need to fight back against Satan who gives away cars and has a Bama alumnus SEC Commissioner in Birmingham and corrupt SEC play reviews in Birmingham......

.Fight fire with ??

Posted by Fred439
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
169 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:04 am to
Absolutely 100% correct. This is the best analysis I have read. Stop all the negative comments and just look at this analysis and then you will understand. Thanks for your insightful analysis.
Posted by TigerScribe
Member since Dec 2005
1195 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:05 am to
This is not a secret, nor is it something only available to Bama. When you can recruit at an elite level year in and year out, you can become a program that contends for titles annually. When you do that, you strengthen your brand and project it nationally. People then want to buy your gear, networks want to broadcast you, donors want to donate, businesses want to be sponsors and advertisers and more top high school students want to attend your university. LSU saw a similar impact when they won natties. But because Saban can sustain that high level of excellence year to year, both in recruiting and in winning, they build success upon success. And elite football recruits want to be part of that. With more success is more revenue, which means more available for facilities, recruiting, analysts, and coaches' salaries.

There's a difference in mentality, though, which to me is really significant. With Bama, Saban, the AD, the university president, the foundation and the state are all aligned. They set their sights at a high level and they commit the money to make big things happen. Even on the academic side, the university has capitalized on the higher profile nationally that football has brought the school during Saban's tenure to ramp up out of state student recruiting, attract higher caliber students, significantly expand scholarship money, and expand their online program, which generates even more revenue.

Conversely, with LSU and Louisiana, there's no similar alignment, no real sense of a larger, guiding vision and unified strategy, no real driving desire for greatness. Yeah, you give Aranda $2.5M and that's great, but then you go on the cheap for your HC and OC's salary to offset it. You have a university president who says he doesn't understand why college coaches make so much, and you have a governor who says they may need to shut down the university, and a state with a massively bleeding budget. Back to Alabama, you have an athletic department that has increased its revenues by more than $100 million since Saban came aboard and a president who says Saban's salary was way more than worth the investment, for the revenue and national exposure and student recruiting success it has brought. You also have a state that benefits from an improved workforce because a fair number of those out of state students decide to take jobs in the state after graduation.

All that to say, big things are possible when your football coach recruits at a high level, there is a shared desire for greatness and the key players are on the same page. What is most disheartening to me goes way beyond the playing field. It's the lack of all those larger things on LSU's/Louisiana's part.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 10:13 am
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53147 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:08 am to
Yep, I agree.

And I certainly understand those who suggest that LSU may not be able to "flip the script" against Alabama for the foreseeable future.

This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 10:10 am
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31616 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:15 am to
You left out weed and making legal issues disappear
Posted by PrideofTheSEC
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
5219 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:18 am to
I had this same plan on the NCAA football video game for years, except I was better than Saban. I could turn Tulane into Bama in under 4 seasons on heisman difficulty.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:19 am to
Good post.

quote:

So let's back our boys. Bring on Ar-kansas, Rice and A&M, and let's finish strong at 11-2 with a nice bowl.

Not a perfect season, but not bad either, and still going in the right direction.



Exactly. We really need to finish 11-2. That will carry a lot of momentum toward landing talented players. Maybe we get lucky and bama gets hit with NCAA recruiting violations from Amite to help us catch up just a little.
Posted by stealthy1
Member since Aug 2007
558 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:24 am to
Bingo. Well said.
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2639 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:26 am to
You got this from some accountant?

LOL

ETA: I'm not disputing a single thing in your OP. I just don't think this kind of analysis came from a sit down with the dude's (personal?) accountant.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 10:31 am
Posted by Airpower
Member since Oct 2018
1101 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:34 am to
Cliffnote : recruiting
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