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re: Can you teach a child morality without religion?
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:50 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:50 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Karma is an idea that can be taught without an overarching religion.
How so? Karma comes from the Hindu religion... it's origin is strictly religious.
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:50 pm to CivilTiger83
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Is there a logical basis for morality if there is no higher power?
NO
Of course there is
The basis simply being the progression and survival of society
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:50 pm to Salmon
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I'm actually reading the Satanic Bible right now.
I'm taking you off of my Christmas card list right now.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:51 pm to LandPhil
Yes.. You can teach your kids religion as well as behavior that isn't considered moral so you don't need one for the other to exist.
There are people who don't necessarily believe in god, but are good people. There are a lot of "religious" people who are selfish assholes.
There are people who don't necessarily believe in god, but are good people. There are a lot of "religious" people who are selfish assholes.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:53 pm to CivilTiger83
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Karma comes from the Hindu religion... it's origin is strictly religious.
Even Christianity uses karma as a reward/punishment
"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:53 pm to CivilTiger83
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:54 pm to colorchangintiger
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You can read this to find out:
I have no doubt that presents one particular theory. Can you give me the gist of what it says to justify your particular assertion here?
I've read about a theory that suggests the whole idea of religious thought was an essential evolutionary hurdle for mankind (homo sapiens) to actually become what we consider civilized. Again, not necessarily speaking to any religious truth - although, one could make an argument it might at least suggest such.
I'm pretty sure none of the individuals studying such things would declare any of their theories absolute truth on this topic. At least, I hope they wouldn't.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:55 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Karma is an idea that can be taught without an overarching religion.
Yes, but not sure how you escape the spiritual aspect
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:55 pm to Salmon
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I'm actually reading the Satanic Bible right now.
And it is at its core, just a basic set of principles and guidelines to live your life.
That's just what Satan wants you to believe. That won't play well on Judgement Day.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:55 pm to Salmon
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Of course there is
The basis simply being the progression and survival of society
Using the progression of society as the test of morality... If Hitler's fundamental conclusion was that some people groups are better than others, and progress was a thriving Aryan race, how are his ideas wrong from the pure progress worldview?
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:56 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:56 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I've read about a theory that suggests the whole idea of religious thought was an essential evolutionary hurdle for mankind (homo sapiens) to actually become what we consider civilized.
and we owe it all to psychedelics
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:57 pm to CivilTiger83
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How so? Karma comes from the Hindu religion... it's origin is strictly religious.
"Do unto others as they do unto you..."
Does that sound like a Hindu verse?
Buddhists also believe in karma.
So that begs the question- how is it possible to teach an ideal central to three of the worlds major religions without teaching anything specific to any of those three?
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:57 pm to WikiTiger
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This is the crux of my whole argument in this thread.
I know.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:57 pm to CivilTiger83
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If Hitler's fundamental conclusion was that some people groups are better than others, and progress was a thriving Aryan race, how are his ideas wrong from the pure progress worldview?
They aren't. I think his actions were universally wrong however
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:57 pm to LandPhil
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Can you teach a child morality without religion?
Of course. Religious people only use the good parts, anyways.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:57 pm to Salmon
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and we owe it all to psychedelics
Maybe
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:58 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Karma is an idea that can be taught without an overarching religion.
Karma as an idea implies that there is some sort of higher power keeping tabs and 'dishing out' said karma. That doesn't require an overarching religion, but it requires belief in something greater than the tangible world.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:58 pm to CivilTiger83
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If Hitler's fundamental conclusion was that some people groups are better than others, and progress was a thriving Aryan race, how are his ideas wrong from the pure progress worldview?
are the Nazis thriving right now?
Posted on 10/31/18 at 2:58 pm to Salmon
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and we owe it all to psychedelics
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