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re: It apears the initial quality level of the 2019 Ram is not as high as one would hope

Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:02 am to
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58133 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:02 am to
Maybe if they had taken the bailout money they could have spent some money on R&D to fix their ancient arse lineup. From everything I've read they are looking like they are about to be a in a world of hurt b/c of their over reliance on truck sales and complete lack of care towards their car lineup.
Posted by Nachos Man
Member since Feb 2018
147 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:03 am to
Worst slogan ever...

"Domestic. Not domesticated."

WTF?

Check out my new car! It's totally domestic!!!!!
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22487 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:23 am to
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Thread after thread of problems from 2019 owners on the Ram forum.




Wouldn't Ford or Chevy forums also have threads about problems even if the problems were somewhat rare?


I bought a 2015 Laramie 3/4 ton last year and I couldn't be happier with it. But I am sort of temporarily retired and I haven't put this truck through the brutal use that I've asked of my past trucks.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5917 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 7:24 am to
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Fine looking trucks.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 7:34 am to
Tundras begin to fall apart as soon as you leave the lot.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42578 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 7:35 am to
Dem new GMC's doe. Baw at my office bought a 2019 AF4. Might be the best looking truck ever made.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32513 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 7:52 am to
There's a recall on some wranglers too.
Jeep Prepares to Recall New Wranglers Over Frame-Weld Defect
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Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV is preparing to recall about 18,000 Jeep Wranglers because of a faulty weld in the frame of the popular sport utility vehicle that can cause a sudden crash.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 7:53 am
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
2907 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 7:54 am to
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Tundras begin to fall apart as soon as you leave the lot.


Seriously? I guess I shouldn't have anything left of my 2011 with a 149,000 trouble free miles.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90891 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 7:57 am to
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Ram




Shocker
Posted by summersausage
Member since Jul 2010
1821 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:12 am to
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Buy Ford their seat belts ignite.


Ford doesn’t manufacture seat belts. Saw a problem and fixed it. Chrysler, on the other hand, does welding on assembly line. Defective weld on Jeep is a direct reflection of a Chrysler issue.

ETA:
According to this summary, available online at NHTSA's Office of Defects Investigation, the potential culprit could be seat belt pretensioners manufactured by two automotive suppliers, ZF TRW and Takata. The latter of the two, Takata, is still embroiled in a massive recall over tens of millions of faulty airbags, which have caused hundreds of injuries and more than 20 deaths globally.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 8:16 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48809 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:14 am to
Every manufacturer has recalls. I've owned Ford, GMC and Ram and they were all fine vehicles for me. Hell, my F150 has 3 recalls on it right now.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119529 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:16 am to
It's a dodge. They have been behind in quality of everyone for decades.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119529 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:21 am to
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Buy Ford their seat belts ignite.


I have a 2016, just had it in the shop for an entire day for 3 recalls.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119529 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:23 am to
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Tundras begin to fall apart as soon as you leave the lot.


Know how I know you don't know what you are talking about.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:23 am to
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No, they didn’t receive one dime of TARP money.



That is true, but not the entire story. The Dept of Energy did in 2009 loan Ford $5 to upgrade several plants to build more fuel efficient vehicles.

Posted by summersausage
Member since Jul 2010
1821 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:31 am to
Yea because that is mandated by the EPA and nobody wants the shite anyway so they pay to upgrade plants to produce cars in this manner.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:34 am to
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Yea because that is mandated by the EPA and nobody wants the shite anyway so they pay to upgrade plants to produce cars in this manner.




What the frick does that have to do with the fact that Ford DID take government loans?

I'm not even complaining about Ford. I own several Fords, I'm simply saying that as a matter of fact to say "Ford didn't take government money" is wrong. THey DID take government money.

Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:36 am to
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Know how I know you don't know what you are talking about.


I don’t think you know that I do know that you don’t know how I know you don’t know what I am talking about.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17696 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:38 am to
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Tundras begin to fall apart as soon as you leave the lot.


My 2012 crew cab says you're wrong.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13400 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:40 am to
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Every manufacturer has recalls


It’s a lose lose.

Vehicle has an issue, no recall made by manufacturer: “______ company sucks and builds POS vehicles!”

Vehicle has an issue, and a recall is issued by the manufacturer: “_______ company sucks and builds POS vehicles!”

Lack of logical thinking when discussing vehicles and reliability is astounding.
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