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re: Same Issues Every Year

Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:41 am to
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:41 am to
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This is what I wonder too. I can't wrap my head around how we continue to not address the same damn issues year in and year out. I've never coached a down of football but it's pretty clear to me what the primary issues are.. why do the coaches, etc. just refuse to address them? It's infuriating. Sometimes it feels like they are just willfully ignoring the issues.


They are not ignoring the issue. The true issue with the O-line this year and the program for the past 8 years is underclassmen declaring early.

It's not The L.F. 7's, or guice, or Key's. It's the Chris faulk's, The toby weathersby's, the clapp's, the freak Johnson's, the tolliver's etc that are really making it hard for the coaches to correct the issue.

If you had Clapp, Weathersby, and Tolliver (two didn't get drafted, one got drafted in the last round) this year. We would contend for a s.e.c. and n.c. There would be no weakness on the team.

LSU's inability to keep players, who are very good college ball players, that are low draft picks at best is really hurting the program. These kind of players are continuing to spring holes in the team.

the coaches obviously know the holes. They brought in the #1 rated tackle out of juco to address it. however, he turned out not to be as good as everyone thought. They brought in an outstanding kicker, they brought in a good qb. if we can find a way to keep some draft eligible players that are very good college ball player, we will have more consistency and less holes to fill.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37582 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:43 am to
Very well put
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
7449 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:54 am to
But the coaches can still scheme around these weaknesses..
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
4945 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:55 am to
why stay in a program that is not likely to win any type of championship because of inept offensive philosophy? Why risk getting hurt? When these guys are able to go pro, they go.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4306 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:09 am to
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he true issue with the O-line this year and the program for the past 8 years is underclassmen declaring early.


I completely agree with you. But at the same time, you have to ask why these kids are leaving early. Why does a kid like Clapp, who comes from a well off family, leave early for the draft when his grade wasn't even that promising?

In the past, kids that left early were ready. They graded high in the draft or they just were buried on a depth chart full of future first rounders.

Now it's kids that don't grade well, who would be starting for LSU, that leave early. Why is that?

Personally, I think it has a lot to do with the culture O is creating. It clearly doesn't sit well with the kids that were there during the Miles regime. It apparently doesn't sit well with recruits as well, hence the drop in recruiting last year.
Posted by TigerFan4040
Member since Sep 2013
4386 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:14 am to
quote:

They are not ignoring the issue. The true issue with the O-line this year and the program for the past 8 years is underclassmen declaring early.

It's not The L.F. 7's, or guice, or Key's. It's the Chris faulk's, The toby weathersby's, the clapp's, the freak Johnson's, the tolliver's etc that are really making it hard for the coaches to correct the issue.

If you had Clapp, Weathersby, and Tolliver (two didn't get drafted, one got drafted in the last round) this year. We would contend for a s.e.c. and n.c. There would be no weakness on the team.

LSU's inability to keep players, who are very good college ball players, that are low draft picks at best is really hurting the program. These kind of players are continuing to spring holes in the team.

the coaches obviously know the holes. They brought in the #1 rated tackle out of juco to address it. however, he turned out not to be as good as everyone thought. They brought in an outstanding kicker, they brought in a good qb. if we can find a way to keep some draft eligible players that are very good college ball player, we will have more consistency and less holes to fill.


Everyone should read this^^^

Regardless your opinion of our current coaching staff, this is one of the biggest hurdles LSU faces year in and year out.

Well said, baw
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68460 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:28 am to
quote:

It's not The L.F. 7's, or guice, or Key's. It's the Chris faulk's, The toby weathersby's, the clapp's, the freak Johnson's, the tolliver's etc that are really making it hard for the coaches to correct the issue.

If you had Clapp, Weathersby, and Tolliver (two didn't get drafted, one got drafted in the last round) this year. We would contend for a s.e.c. and n.c. There would be no weakness on the team.


I know where you are coming from, but I would not put Clapp in with the other guys here. He redshirted and graduated, not the same as leaving without your degree. Clapp spent 4 years here much like many seniors do, he just only played 3 years.

I will say it still surprised me he left early, I knew Weathersby would because that was his goal from day 1 was to be 3 and done regardless. Clapp I thought would stick around for last eligible year, despite earning his degree, maybe he just didn't want to do grad school.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 8:30 am
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8722 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:32 am to
quote:

It's not The L.F. 7's, or guice, or Key's. It's the Chris faulk's, The toby weathersby's, the clapp's, the freak Johnson's, the tolliver's etc that are really making it hard for the coaches to correct the issue.

If you had Clapp, Weathersby, and Tolliver (two didn't get drafted, one got drafted in the last round) this year. We would contend for a s.e.c. and n.c. There would be no weakness on the team.

LSU's inability to keep players, who are very good college ball players, that are low draft picks at best is really hurting the program. These kind of players are continuing to spring holes in the team.


Good thing other teams like BAMA or Clemson don't have those problems.
Posted by tonydtiger
Central Mississippi
Member since Oct 2007
2246 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:56 am to
I, sir, nominate you for post of the day!
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9356 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:19 am to
This, finally a coherent, insightful post..
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66847 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:24 am to
It’s more than just the OL.

There are countless teams out there who have no more or less talent at OL who still move the ball. They just scheme around it.

There is a reason 90% of CFB doesn’t run anpro style offense
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