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re: We need to talk about the Golden Girls-Tiger Girls feud

Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:46 pm to
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Announce a catfight will be held after the game to settle it.

More fans would stick around for the second half.


Like a Kenny's Key West Fat City style oil Wrestling match? Hell yeah, I'm down.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:58 pm to
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LetTheBandPlayNeck15
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:17 pm to
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LSU Colorguard has included male members (and rifles) in the past.

You are technically correct.....there were male color guard members. However, they were added as rifles (occasionally did flag). It was a shortlived experiment. Rifles went away and so did males.

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they're being treated like second-class members of Tiger Band.

I agree with you 100%.
Posted by PorcelainPunisher
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:21 pm to
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Their ring is pretty awesome.
I heard they bleached.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:52 pm to
Tiger Girls > Golden Girls
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 4:01 pm to
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Tiger Girls > Golden Girls


True
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13519 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 4:37 pm to
We can’t allow Golden Girls and Tiger Girls cat fighting in public.

I think they need me to be an impartial judge in a private showdown of their individual talents!


The things I’ll do for my alma mater!
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:11 pm to
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It appears that the new directors want to take Tiger Band away from their traditional corps style toward a more "show band" style similar to what you see in DCI competitions
actually this is not true.

since tiger band moved away from military style, it has been a textbook college band. those bands performed shows that were not dissimilar to 80's dci shows with significantly less difficulty. now, there is a trend in college bands, started mainly at ohio st, to have gimmicks in the show which i find quite entertaining and refreshing. exactly what a college band should be - lighthearted.

contemporary dci shows are NOTHING like that at all. you won't see a corps forming the shape of superman flying out of a phone booth or a tank rolling across the field firing a projectile.

what the new directors are bringing is a very welcome change, seems to be well received and is in line with trendsetters.

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opposing bands routinely drown out Tiger Band
i wouldn't say this is the case. i was sitting front and center last night and tiger band sounded as good as i have ever heard them. the sound was phenomenal. i can assure you no college band is going to top that. it was as good as a college band is going to get and i say that from significant experience in the profession.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:20 pm to
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the "park and play" shows that became so common after Wickes and Moorehouse left.
after? my word that was a STAPLE of their show design along with every other college band cliche; waterfall, follow the leader, drumline elevator drill. completely stale, unimaginative, lazy, etc. the new staff has really breathed new life into the shows.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:24 pm to
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it does appear that the talent is going away from the band
i'm not in rehearsals every day but, judging from the sound on display last night, the talent is definitely still there. they sounded incredible. i would totally not be surprised if tiger band could not maintain their typical high level of quality sound because it's just a college band. but, it has not waned yet.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:32 pm to
We sit in section 212 and have never had problems hearing the band until about 2 years ago. They are definitely not as powerful as they used to be. You can look at them and see there is less brass than in years past. Count the number of tubas. There are about half of what Tiger Band usually has.

Last season, I sat with friends in the south endzone a couple of times and the band did not sound strong, despite the fact that we were pretty much directly across from them. When I’m in my usual seats in 212 and Auburn or Bama brings their full band, they are all I hear.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:52 pm to
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Count the number of tubas
i did notice that last night. i counted 20. down from about 32 a few years ago. noticeable difference. however, the quality has remained undiminished. if there are less people auditioning, they are doing a good job of maintaining a quality product commensurate with what is available.
Posted by Relham10
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:56 pm to
Every single one in the top pic could get it
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 11:27 pm to
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what the new directors are bringing is a very welcome change, seems to be well received and is in line with trendsetters.

The problem is the current Golden Band directors have no clue how to design or teach what Ohio State does. The Golden Band attempts to imitate Ohio State but does not come close. The result is a "half-baked" product. The fans who sit in my area of the stadium are already tired of this "new & improved" approach to the halftime shows. Consider this, making pictures on the field is actually "very old." It was commonplace in the 60's & 70's. Wickes, Moorhouse & King also made pictures (tanks, marching soldiers, etc) from time to time. But the mixed it up with corps style.
Instrumentation......try recruiting better. That's how Wickes, Moorhouse & King did it. That's how they were cutting around 100 every year just to get to 325. Now they can't even get 325 to show up. Not good for the future.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 11:42 pm to
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The problem is the current Golden Band directors have no clue how to design or teach what Ohio State does
yet they are pulling it off successfully

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The Golden Band attempts to imitate Ohio State but does not come close
link?

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The fans who sit in my area of the stadium are already tired of this "new & improved" approach to the halftime shows
that's their problem

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Consider this, making pictures on the field is actually "very old." It was commonplace in the 60's & 70's
yes, but still entertaining and refreshing compared to the stale, lazy approach that most college bands, including tiger band, had for 3 decades.

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Wickes, Moorhouse & King also made pictures (tanks, marching soldiers, etc) from time to time
hardly ever and never as successfully as the current group. i was in band for 4 years and i don't recall us doing anything like that even once.

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Instrumentation......try recruiting better. That's how Wickes, Moorhouse & King did it. That's how they were cutting around 100 every year just to get to 325. Now they can't even get 325 to show up. Not good for the future.
this could be something that is beyond the control of the directors. or they could be deciding to be leaner. either way, they're succeeding. tiger band looked great and sounded great, even if they are smaller.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:11 am to
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yet they are pulling it off successfully


1. According to you. Before the current regime, the band received countless awards and recognition. What awards have they received?
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The Golden Band attempts to imitate Ohio State but does not come close

2. Watch videos of each and get back to me. BTW...take a look at velocity.
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yes, but still entertaining and refreshing compared to the stale, lazy approach that most college bands, including tiger band, had for 3 decades.

3. Refer to #1 above.
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this could be something that is beyond the control of the directors. or they could be deciding to be leaner. either way, they're succeeding. tiger band looked great and sounded great, even if they are smaller.

4. Really? Deciding to be leaner? This is clear BS. With incomplete instrumentation, the sound of the band cannot be as good with previous directors. 20 tubas versus 32 tubas makes a big difference.
Bottom line....the band has declined in numbers and talent. They used to cut around 100 just to get down to 325. Now, they take whatever walks in the door and still can't make 325!!
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67993 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:13 am to
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Based on how things are going around the country, they are really going to be upset when they have to share the spotlight with the Golden Boys too in a few years.




Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38263 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:25 am to
Yeah then they were very entertaining. Much better than the cheerleaders and golden girls.
Posted by EST
Investigating
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:44 am to
Why can't we all just get along?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 1:34 am to
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According to you
no. according to reality. at no point have they failed to execute a show.

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What awards have they received?
those awards are fun but, seriously? no objectivity whatsoever. it's like giving picasso an award over rothko. i'm not saying tiger band did not deserve the award. i'm talking about the nature of the award itself. they aren't really objective standards

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Watch videos of each and get back to me
i have. they're basically identical.

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Refer to #1 above
i don't know if you understand symmetrical drill, elevator drill, waterfall, follow the leader, etc. if you did, you would know how lazy/uneducated linda and co were as drill designers. i get the impression i'm talking to someone who has never worked in the profession.

frank and linda knew very little about marching band. they knew the minimum and that's how they were able to execute the simplest, most elementary shows. of course frank had a professional knowledge of good sound quality but, he was blessed with more majors because of the money. he was blessed with marty hurley's influence in south louisiana which gave him a competent drumline. linda knew the basics of dance and color guard. there's your tiger band history. i think you're romanticizing them a bit.

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With incomplete instrumentation
who said this is the case?

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the sound of the band cannot be as good with previous directors
yet it is.

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20 tubas versus 32 tubas makes a big difference
maybe. maybe not. you can have 20 high quality players that can have a better sound and volume than 32 weaker players. this is why tiger band was always superior to other college bands - more music majors than others. there were more music majors because tiger band paid more than others. now, others have caught up and are paying more

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Now, they take whatever walks in the door
link?

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and still can't make 325!
prove that you know this is not beyond their control
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