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re: Ex-Eagle Mychal Kendricks pleads guilty to insider Trading. Faces 25 years

Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:23 pm to
Sounds like he signed with the wrong Ohio team.
Posted by Overbrook
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:28 pm to
I am active in the market and hate insider trading. But it's so selectively prosecuted it's ridiculous. It's also non-violent. He should get 2 or 3 years of real time max. and a lifetime ban from the stockmarket (however you can do that).
All these hedge funds going crazy over Elon Musk publicly stating what he was considering proved the point - what could be more public, non-insider- than publicly announcing his considerations on Twitter?
This post was edited on 9/6/18 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:31 pm to
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But it's so selectively prosecuted it's ridiculous.
This.

Hell, if the SEC were truly adamant about rooting it out, 99% of DC would be under investigation.

Insider trading is essentially how all of the US Congress makes its money.
This post was edited on 9/6/18 at 8:35 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:34 pm to
He’ll prolly do more time than most drug dealers get
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:39 pm to
Exactly right. It’s how folks like Bennie Thompson become millionaires after arriving in DC with admittedly nothing.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:07 pm to
So the dude gets busted for being the first one in line? This is retarded.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5713 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:11 pm to
Every day CNBC has an options section where someone buys 250k worth of call options on some random stock that someone is betting on making a huge jump in the next few days. Yet they don’t seem to act like that is abnormal at all.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:18 pm to
It's how the Kennedy's built their wealth
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:23 pm to
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what could be more public, non-insider- than publicly announcing his considerations on Twitter?
There's a reason why earnings and deals are reported after hours.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22847 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:38 pm to
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That 25 year number is complete fiction.

Guarantee less than 2 years. Probably less than 6 months.


I don't know about federal Court, but I know in state Court you would never plead guilty until you've struck your deal with the prosecutor.

At your arraignment, you always plead not guilty, then there's a time period set to accept a plea offer. All the negotiations go on behind the scenes, then, unless your absolutely innocent, you plead and the judge issues the state recommended sentence.

If you plead guilty right off the bat, I believe it's then up to the judge and only the judge on how he feels the sentence should be handed down.

Obviously, Kendricks is not going to get 25 years, and even if he did, he would parole out after serving far less than the actual sentence. For many state felonies, unless it something like capital murder, an actual prison time can range anywhere from 1/6 to 1/4 of the sentence before parole eligibility.

Kendricks will probably do time, but nothing near what the headline says. Martha Stewart, whom benefitted far more than $1.5 million, only did like 10 months or so in a minimum security fed. Prison if I remember correctly.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:39 pm to
He made a plea deal he's not getting a lot of time. A few years maybe. A couple more likely
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:43 pm to
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It's how the Kennedy's built their wealth

It is pretty much how every politician built their wealth.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22847 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:44 pm to
How did he strike a deal that fast? Wasn't he only arrested like a week ago? I've never seen courts work that fast.

Meybe he'll flip and become federal witness to land some bigger fish.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 10:28 pm to
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He made a plea deal


No he didn't.

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A few years maybe. A couple more likely


Probably sentenced to a couple tops and will do 3-6 months.

Why do people speak about things they know absolutely nothing about?
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 11:43 pm to
I of course don't know anything about insider trading, nor do I know the normal punishments of it, but my guess is that he won't get anything near 25 years. Maybe more like a year or two.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
4919 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 12:51 am to
My grandfather was a federal agent in customs/BP. They used to bust people in the open waters all the time with millions of dollars. These are guys who could have retired in The Bahamas and Belize and Barbados long before they were caught. He always told me, the easiest question to ask is where is the money? People are greedy. Money makes people do dumb shite. It’s easy to say in hindsight, why take the $1M when you earn $20M but it’s never that simple is it.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 12:52 am
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/7/18 at 1:10 am to
Will probably get him a one game suspension from ole Rodg.
Posted by jrowla2
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
4082 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 2:12 am to
the fact that Martha Stewart had to do prison time was crazy...even though it was probably the easiest white collar prison ever. She is the sweetest lady. House arrest, probation and fines should have been more than enough.

Should be the same here.
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
11662 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 2:19 am to
Those massive option sizes might be the idiots on WSB, who take out loans to buy MU calls
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/7/18 at 6:41 am to
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I don't know about federal Court, but I know in state Court you would never plead guilty until you've struck your deal with the prosecutor.

federal court isn't the same. there are sentencing guidelines and deals aren't really struck the same way

pleading pre-indictment and cooperating with the investigation are 2 big ways to get your points down, so THAT was likely part of the plea (prosecutors agree they won't dispute those positive things as well as some other things for the guidelines). they likely have a range they're agreeing on indirectly but it's not a direct deal
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