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re: McCain "I will repeal Obamacare" compilation

Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51100 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:46 pm to
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Trump was an idiot attacking senators he would later need to get his agenda through congress and paid a steep price.


No. The American people are paying the price of John McCain's "leadership."
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13302 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:47 pm to
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draft dodger


I hear this accusation thrown around a lot by liberals.

Care to tell us about your military service?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51100 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:47 pm to
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SHOULD have had a full replacement ready to go


No replacememt is necessary. Simply repealing it is enough.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:49 pm to
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Wrong. Every GOP vote on Obamacare during the Obama tenure was pure political theater. They lacked the power to actually do any harm to the program, so they could engage in meaningless gestures with impunity.

Once they had a GOP president, that bill ceased to be meaningless, and it became more important to actually CONSIDER the implications. Again, they SHOULD have had a full replacement ready to go. If they had done that, they would not have lost Snow, Murkowski ... OR McCain.


You're being obtuse in order to hide the fact that you have lost this debate

True or false.

The bill McCain voted no on in 2017 was the same bill he voted yes for in 2016, Exactly, word for word

The answer, of course , is true

None of your other bullshite matters, McCain voted YES on the bill to repeal when Obama was President and NO when Trump was, Now whether he voted yes in 2016 simply because he wanted to put it to Obama even though he knew it wouldn't pass, OR he voted no in 2017 because he wanted to put it to Trump because had he voted yes matters no, either way that vote proves he was a piece of shite who didn't vote based on principle

Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7785 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:49 pm to
Or maybe i read the thread on the Fox News polll two days ago. Im sorry that the numbers make you mad but they are what they are. Im sure Fox is in the bag for the libz though so its #fakenews
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39720 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Wrong. Every GOP vote on Obamacare during the Obama tenure was pure political theater. They lacked the power to actually do any harm to the program, so they could engage in meaningless gestures with impunity.


It doesn't matter. If McCain was engaged in bullshite political theater than that's on him. He put himself on the record for voters. If his intent was to decieve them, maybe he's not the honorable man you thought he was. At the end of the day, he flip flopped in dramatic fashion and broke his promises. And he did it all to spite Trump. Hes no better than Trump.

At least Trump owns his bullshite.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:51 pm to
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No replacememt is necessary. Simply repealing it is enough.
Wrong. The previous regimen, consisting primarily of private health insurance, would be a “replacement.” But Obamacare had damaged that system to such an extent that “sink or swim” would have been a massive failure. They needed a phase-out period, which would have allowed the private health insurance providers to get back on their feet.

But the GOP legislators did not do their jobs. They chose more political theater.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 1:52 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Or maybe i read the thread on the Fox News polll two days ago. Im sorry that the numbers make you mad but they are what they are. Im sure Fox is in the bag for the libz though so its #fakenews




This was the sneaky part of the ACA once you give people free shite, they aren't going to want to give it back, and that's dangerous in a country where 40% of the population (roughly) don't pay any meaningful amount of taxes. OF COURSE those people who are receiving completely free medical insurance are happy with the ACA, they don't give a frick that some other suckdr's health insurance went from $400 a month to $1200 a month to pay for that.


Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:53 pm to
Your understanding of politics would embarass a third-grader.

But I will grant you that the constant GOP repeal votes during the Obama administration were pointless showmanship. I said so at the time. They SHOULD have been proposing a REAL solution, but that would have involved hard work.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
12249 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:55 pm to
McCain is a liar stating to his electorate he would repeal and replace ........then out of vengeance to Trump’s success casted the DECIDING VOTE that prevented repeal of Obamacare.....

So God decided that He would repeal and replace McCain......


Good bye Mc Cain May God rest your soul and maybe AZ will elect someone that will live up to his promises....




Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39720 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:56 pm to
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Or maybe i read the thread on the Fox News polll two days ago. Im sorry that the numbers make you mad but they are what they are. Im sure Fox is in the bag for the libz though so its #fakenews


Nope. That's not it either. Fox news doesn't do the poll. They contract a research firm to do it. Their methodology doesn't even attempt to match registered voter party splits. It's totally random. Like pretty much all of the polls fox puts out, it isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41339 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:58 pm to
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Only retards like you hate it.


I'd challenge you to find a small business owner that doesn't hate it. Our premiums went from $400/month to $2200/month forcing me to leave our family business and get a job that provided insurance. frick Obamacare.


ETA: McCain Voting Against Repeal
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39720 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:04 pm to
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Hey a-hole.

Americans weren't fricked over. Quite a few of them like ACA and use it. Only retards like you hate it.

I guess donnie should have thought it through when president bonespurs was attacking a prisoner of war/navy hero.

McCain stood up and gave Trump the shiny middle finger. It was one of his many shining moments. There is a reason people called him a maverick.


Sweet melt. Let's unpack that straight jacket post of yours, Mr. Conservative.

McCain is a thin skinned pussy who voted based on his hurt feelings rather than what his constituents elected him to do. He broke the very promises he made to them. There is no way around it.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7785 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:05 pm to
Sure. But thats a cogent assessment that would provide reasoning for the polling. Thats not what Vacherie is doing. He is sticking his fingers in his ears because he doesnt like what he’s hearing while claiming that HE cant have a reasonable discussion with ME


Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48937 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:09 pm to
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McCain stood up and gave Trump the shiny middle finger.


McCain, like you, get your feelings hurt and only care about revenge. At the expense of America. Sad.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148096 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:10 pm to
McCain who the democratic left pointed out years ago-left his first wife after she got in a car accident and got fat.

He was also not for transexuals in the military; then... because he is a GOPer transnational marxist globalist that hates Trump, was suddenly against banning them.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39720 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:20 pm to
Lol, ok. The Fox poll is shite. Like most polls.

But please carry on thinking that people want to pay higher taxes. I hope your favorite candidates think it too.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16371 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:20 pm to
McCain lied his arse off about wanting to get rid of obamacare.

An equivalent of that would be if Mexico actually agreed to pay for the wall and all the red tape was lifted.....and Trump started laughing and cheering as he says "no thanks!".
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:21 pm to
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McCain didn't frick Trump over. He fricked the American people over. He broke his own promise and blaming Trump makes you somehow look fricking dumber than you already are.


McCain didn't screw the American people. He saved the American people from that joke that was the Republican healthcare plan that was really a tax cut for rich people. A plan that kicked 25 million people off of healthcare, made health insurance more expensive for the young and elderly, and cut almost 800 billion from Medicaid so they could give it to the 1%. This was the joke that Republicans had 8 years to come up with. Obamacare is far from perfect, but it is light years better than the sh*t Republicans came up with.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:22 pm to
I pissed him off on the Michael Medved show by calling him out on his bullshite re: Obamacare. Medved had to step in and save him.

McCain is a stain on the State of Arizona and the US Senate. frick that guy. I hope Ward wins his seat and he turns over in his grave a few million times when she actually does what he lied to his state about doing.
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